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  • ID: I10555
  • Name: John De Warrenne
  • Suffix: 7th Earl Of Warren & Surrey
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1235
  • Note: Age 5 at father?s death 1
  • Death: AFT SEP 1304
  • Occupation: Leader of the English forces at battle of Stirling Bridge
  • BATT: Lewes. Stirling 1297.
  • Note: 1

    John was the leader of the English forces which lost to William Wallace in the battle of Stirling Bridge in 1297.
    John de Warren (Plantagenet), Earl of Warren and Surrey, was but five years of age at the time of his father's decease, and was placed in ward with Peter de Savoy, the Queen's brother.
    When he attained majority, he attached himself zealously to Henry III in his conflicts with the barons and maintained the cause of the king with his sword at the battle of Lewes.
    His lordship was a person of violent and imperious temper and was often betrayed into acts of great intemperance, as in the instance of assaulting Sir Alan Zouch and his son, Roger, in Westminster Hall, when he almost killed the one and wounded the other. And again, when Edward I issued the first writs of Quo Warranto, his lordship being questioned as to the title of his possessions, exhibited to the justices an old sword and unsheathing it said, "Behold my lords, here is my warranty; my ancestors coming into this land with William the Bastard, did obtain their lands by the sword, and I am resolved with the sword to defend them against whomsoever shall endeavour to dispossess me, but our progenitors were sharers and assistants therein."
    The earl was constituted, by King Edward, general of all his forces on the north of Trent for the better restraining the insolences of the Scots; whereupon he marched into Scotland and so terrified the inhabitants that they immediately sued for peace and gave hostages for their future good conduct. But the war soon after breaking out afresh, his lordship sustained a signal defeat at Strivelin where his troops fled first to Berwick, and thence into England.
    The earl m. 1st, 1247, Alice, dau. of Hugh le Brun, Count de la March, and half sister by the mother of King Henry III, and 2ndly, Joan, dau. of William, Lord Mowbray, and by the former only had issue, William, Alianore, and Isabel.
    His lordship d. in 1304, and was s. by his grandson, John de Warren (Plantagenet). [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 569, Warren, Earls of Surrey]
  • _UID: A1ED01AD817A4222A19AD62C6F1BCE77A718
  • Change Date: 10 JUL 2007



    Father: William Warren
    Mother: Maud or Matilda Marshall

    Marriage 1 Alice De Lusignan or Le Brun b: in Lusignan, Vienne, France
    • Married: 1247 1
    Children
    1. Has Children Isabel De Warenne
    2. Has Children William Warren
    3. Has Children Eleanor Plantagenet

    Marriage 2 Joan Mowbray
    • Married:

    Sources:
    1. Title: Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerages
      Author: Burke, John & Burke, Sir Bernard
      Publication: Harrison, London, 1844, 1883, reprinted 1969
      Text: Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire
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