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  • ID: I11199
  • Name: John Hall 1
  • Sex: M
  • Residence: Basingstoke, co Southampton 1
  • LVG: 1718
  • Occupation: Gentleman
  • Note: 2 2

    There is a pedigree of Hall of Basingstoke in Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica 1898 p108.
    I shall be glad of any information concerning the ancestry of John Hall, gentleman, and Elizabeth his wife, whose children, Elizabeth, John, and Charles, were born at Basingstoke in 1715-17. John the younger was Fellow of Magdalen, Oxford [and perpetual curate of South Hinksey], and he and his sister were buried at St. Peter's, Oxford. Charles was chaplain to Archbishop Lecker and Dean of Bocking, and is buried in the north cloister, Westminster Abbey. Charles's son Charles Henry was successively Dean of Christ Church and Dean of Durham. I cannot connect John Hall, of Basingstoke, with the Halls (clothiers) who flourished in Basingstoke in the seventeenth century. There is a family legend that he or his ancestry came from Mapledurham or Mapledurwell. Another legend connects him with the Halls of Lincolnshire.
    H F 0 Hall.
    (Notes and Queries ser.8:v.2 (1892) Page 249.)
    JOHN HALL, OF BASINGSTOKE (8th S. ii. 249 414, 430, 515, 536).
    There were Halls in Basingstoke before 1595. OWM's William Hall, whose will was registered in that year and who was buried in the Holy Ghost Chapel at Basingstoke, was the second son of Richard Hall, BaylilT of Basingstoke, who died 1604/5, and grandson of Richard, first Warden of the Holy Ghost, who died 1558
    These Halls had no arms, for at the Visitation of 1622-34 the fact that John Hall (William's brother) was then bayliff is recorded, bat there is no entry of arms. I can trace no connexion between these Halls and the " John Hall, gent.," whose children were baptized at Basingstoke 1715-7. The tomb of John's son Charles in the cloisters at Westminster bears no arms ; that of his son John, in St. Peter's, Oxford, is covered by matting, if not buried under the organ...
    (Notes and Queries (1893) Page 91.)
    There is an IGI entry for a Charles Hall born 12 MAR 1717Basingstoke, Hampshire, England son of John and Elizabeth. Would make him 16 at matriculation, 66 at his dau?s wedding.
    There is an entry for a John Hall born abt 1688 Basingstoke, married Elizabeth.
    Also John Hall married an Elizabeth Mrs Hall about 1713Of, Basingstoke, Hampshire.
    Also John Hall bapt 9 May 1681 Basing, Hampshire, son of Richard & Alice.
    The manor of Taulkes, Basingstoke Merton, or Watermartens, was sold in 1613 by the heirs of Richard Deane to John Hall, who died seised in 1633, leaving a son and heir John. The manor was still in the hands of the family in 1714, when it was conveyed by William Hall and Frances his wife to William Russel and John Hall. Nothing more is heard of it, and it is no longer a manor.
    [Could it possibly be that this was marriage settlement by William Hall to his son, and if Charles was born 1708, to his guardian?]
    One of the Municipal Charities of Basingstoke was established by John Hall?s will of 1632, gave a annual sum of 5 4s, charged upon ?Round Mead? otherwise ?Rowe Meadow?, for distribution in bread amongst twenty-four people, twelve of whom must be widows.
    Soon after 1611 John Illingworth parted with the estate of Tunworth, Hants,, the purchaser most probably being John Hall of Basingstoke, who was the owner of the manor and advowson in 1630, and died in 1633. Thomas Hall, twice Mayor of Basingstoke, the third and youngest son of John, apparently succeeded to the manor, for he resided at his seat in Tunworth after his retirement from the corporation of Basingstoke in the middle of the 17 th century until his death in 1669. Joan Hall widow presented to the living in 1699, (fn. 32) and 'Mrs. Hall of Maplederwell widow' is described as 'lady of the manor and patroness of the rectory' by a writer in 1703. (fn. 33) Joan Hall widow and William Hall dealt with the manor and advowson by fine and recovery in 1705, (fn. 34) and William Hall presented to the church in 1713 and again in 1728. (fn. 35) He apparently died soon afterwards, however, for Thomas Hall was the patron in 1732. (fn. 36) The manor and advowson continued in possession of Thomas Hall until 1760, in which year he sold them to Samuel Prince, clerk. (fn. 37) From the latter the estate passed by purchase three years later to Tristram Huddlestone Jervoise of Herriard.
    Herriard estate records have a lease to a John Hall of Southrope, 1 Jan 1625, and another of a parcel of arable land called Bugden, for 4 years to John Hall of Tunworth, yeoman, 18 May 1700.
    Southrope and Tunworth are not far south of Basingstoke.
    Basingstoke Court Rolls.
    7 December, 1588.
    Thomas Hall a freeholder, and one of the under-bailiffs is dead, who held freely a messuage with a garden and appurtenances by fealty, and the rent of 2s. yearly. John Hall is his son and nearest heir.
    Thomas Hall, of Basingstoke, by his wife Elizabeth daughter of Walter Pinke, of Kempshott Park, had a daughter Elizabeth who married in 1654.
    PRO site has the following Hall wills from Basingstoke:
    Will of Richard Hall, Clothier of Basingstoke, proved 16 May 1605
    Will of William Hall, Gentleman of Basingstoke, proved 11 March 1595
    Will of John Hall, Apothecary of Basingstoke, proved 01 July 1721
    Will of William Hall, Malster of Basingstoke, proved 20 January 1721
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  • Change Date: 23 MAY 2012

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth
    • Married: BEF 1716
    1. Has Children Charles Hall b: 1718 in Basingstoke, Hants

    1. Type: Book
      Periodical: Dictionary of National Biography (DNB)
    2. Type: Book
      Periodical: Victoria County History of Hampshire & the Isle of Wight
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