Name: John de Say
Birth: ABT 1335
Residence: Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire
Change Date: 11 MAR 2005
I did have him as son of Geoffrey, Baron de Saye, and Maud de Beauchamp (qv), but this would seem to be wrong since they only left heiresses.
Seems it may be confusion for him:
John de Say, 4th Lord Say, son and heir, aged 2 in 1375. He d. a minor on 27 July 1382. [Complete Peerage, XI:478] Born Sawbrideworth.
Elizabeth Le Botiller b: ABT 1345 in Wem
- John de Say b: ABT 1380 in Little Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire