Ancestors of a 21st century British family

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  • ID: I40818
  • Name: Anketillus de Meyneris 1
  • Sex: M
  • Death: 1190
  • Note: 1

    Some claim descent for this family from King Fergus (a 333BC), but that is almost certainly a work of fiction.
    The progenitor of the family is thought to have come into Britain from Mesnieres in Normandy, probably at or soon after the time of the Conquest. One of the family took the name Manners and was ancestor of the Dukes of Portland in England (see ?Manners1 '). Another came to Scotland and was ancestor of this family of Menzies. Although the first often mentioned is Sir Robert the Chamberlain, the book on the Stewarts of Fothergill identifies his father as Anketillus.
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    From the 14th century the lands around Weem belonged to the Chiefs of Clan Menzies. After the Menzie stronghold, Comrie Castle, was destroyed by fire in 1488, Sir Robert Menzies built a new mansion, the "Place of Weem".
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    From the armorial bearing of the Menzieses it has been conjectured that the first who settled in Scotland of this surname was a branch of the Anglo-Norman family of Meyners, by corruption Manners. But this supposition does not seem to be well founded.
    The family of Menzies obtained a footing in Athole at a very early period, as appears from a charter granted by Robert de Meyners in the reign of Alexander II. This Robert de Meyners, knight, on the accession of Alexander III (1249) was appointed lord high chamberlain of Scotland. His son, Alexander de Meyners, possessed the lands of Weem and Aberfeldy in Athole, and Glendochart in Breadalbane, besides his origional seat of Durrisdeer in Nithsdale, and was succeeded by his eldest son, Robert, in the estates of Weem, Aberfeldy, and Durrisdeer, whilst his second son, Thomas, obtained the lands of Fortingal.
    From the former of these is descended the family of Menzies of Castle Menzies, but that of Menzies of Fortingal terminated in an heiress, by whose marriage with James Stewart, a natural son of the Wolf of Badenoch, the property was transferred to the Stewarts.
  • _UID: 859DBED54AEA4111B3D7A3119445B5989F22
  • Change Date: 17 AUG 2005



    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      Children
      1. Has Children Robert de Meyneris b: ABT 1177

      Sources:
      1. Type: Web Site
        Title: Stirnet Genealogy
        Author: Patrick Barns-Graham
        URL: www.stirnet.com
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