Name: Thomas OLNEY
Given Name: Thomas
Change Date: 14 SEP 2001
American Genealogist, Vol. 20, Number 4, April 1944, page 228:
Name: Page 1
Name: Page 2
Birth: 6 JUN 1600 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom
_SDATE: 1 JUL 1682 in Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States
Burial: Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States
'Thomas Olney. His wife was not Marie Small but Mary Ashton; their marriage was recorded in t he register of St. Albans Abbey, Herts, on 16 Sep 1629. She was baptized there on 25 Aug 1605 , the daughter of James Ashton who was buried on 27 May 1651.'
Complete Book of Emigrants 1607-1640' Peter W. Coldham, p.128 22
Mar-11 Apr 1635; The following passangers, having taken the oaths, are to be embarked in th e 'Planter', Mr. Nicholas Travice, bound from London to New England.; 'With certificate fro m St. Albans parish, Herts.; Thomas Olney, shoemaker 35, Marie Olney 30, Thomas Olney 3, Epen etus Olney 1.
'Passengers to America - Founders of New England' by M. Tepper p16-17
2 Aprilis 1635 Theis vnder written names are to be transported to New England imbarqued in th e Planter Nic: Trarice Mr bound thither the p'ties have brought Certificate from the Ministe r of St Albons (St. Albans) in Hertfordshire, and Attestacon from the Justices of peace accor ding to the Lords Order. Tho: Olney Shoemaker 35, Marie Olney 30, Tho Olney 3, Etenetus --
BRYANT, Thomas, Descendants of
Descendants of Thomas Bryant of Chester County, Pennsylvania, narrative history
THOMAS OLNEY- was born in Hertfordshire, Eng. in 1600, and died in Providence, R.I. in 1682 . He arrived in Boston, Mass. 7 June 1635 on the "Planter" from London, and first settled a t Salem, Mass., where he was appointed surveyor and made a freeman in 1636. Since he was in s ympathy and supported the views of Roger Williams, he was excluded from the colony 12 Mar. 16 38, and became one of the 13 original proprietors of R.I. He held many important offices in R .I.: Treasurer in 1638; 1647 commissioner to form a town government; in 1648 chosen assistan t for the Province holding the position almost continuously until 1663. He was a judge of Jus tice Court; his name appears on the charter from Charles II, and he was one of the founders o f the Baptist Church in Providence.
When he arrived in Boston he was accompanied by his wife, Marie Small, born 1605, who died be fore 1679, and children Thomas, Jr., age 3, and Epenetus, age 1. They had in America other ch ildren: Nebediah, Stephen, James, Mary and Lydia. (*Some sources give the wife of Thomas Olne y as Marie Ashton.)
Thomas2 Olney, son of Thomas and Marie Olney, was born in England in 1632 and died at Provide nce, R.I. 11 June 1722. He was a leading citizen of Providence constantly engaged in public a ffairs, as assistant, member of the town council 30 years, town clerk. Ordained in 1668, he s erved as pastor of the First Baptist Church of Providence. He married 3 July 1660 Elizabeth M arsh of Newport, who died before 1722. They had children: Thomas, William, Elizabeth, Anne an d Phebe. Elizabeth, born Providence 31 Jan. 1666, died there 2 Nov. 1699; married John Sayles .
"Williams & Allied Families" in Americana, Vol. 29;
Arnold, Vital Records of R.I;
Austin, Genealogical Dictionary of R.I.;
Charles Banks, Planters of the Commonwealth (1930, Repr. ed., Baltimore: Genealogy Publ. Co. , 1961)
Thayer and Burton Ancestry
Bibliographic Information: Thayer, Geo Burton. Thayer and Burton Ancestry. Hartford Conn: Pre ss of the Plimpton MFG. Co. 1894
THOMAS OLNEY, one of the Baptists notified to depart from Massachusetts or appear at the nex t court, was born at St. Albans, Hertford County, England, in 1600, and came to this countr y in the ship, "Planter," from London, in 1635. Several years before his departure he marrie d Mary Small [Ashton], of St. Albans, who, besides two sons, came to America with him. He wa s a shoemaker by trade, and settled at Salem, Mass. In 1638, he and several others were licen sed to depart from Mass. Not going immediately they were ordered "to appear at the next cour t (if they be not gone before) to answer such things as shall be objected." They went. In Oct ober of the same year he had settled at Providence, where he was one of the twelve original m embers of the First Baptist Church, organized in 1639. His former pastor at Salem, in explain ing in a letter to a brother pastor the cause of Thomas Olney's expulsion from Salem, wrote : "He wholly refused to hear the church, denying it and all the churches in the Bay to be tru e churches. The great censure of this, our church, was passed upon him." At Providence he wa s twice chosen treasurer of the town, was six times appointed commissioner, was nine times ch osen assistant, four times
deputy, and was for eight years a member of the town council. His homestead was south of th e present state house, Arsenal Lane now running through it. In 1643 he bought land and settle d at Warwick. In 1656 he was chosen judge to try cases where the amount involved did not exce ed forty shillings.
Thomas Olney was a first-class surveyor, and it is said that as he entered upon the surroundi ng lands with his field book, chain and compass, and mystic words, with the peculiar dignit y of official characters of that day, he may well have inspired the Indians with profound aw e and led them to feel [Page 86, Page 87] that no Indian could henceforth dwell upon that par t of their tribal property again. He died at Providence in 1682. During the early settlemen t of New England it was claimed in Connecticut that if a man was too bad to live with in Mass achusetts, they sent him to Rhode Island, and when they found one a little too good, they sen t him to Connecticut, while the remainder of tolerable and average orthodoxy and respectabili ty were allowed to remain undisturbed.
Correspondence from Mel Olney:
The Genealogy of Thomas Olney by James Olney gives the wife of Thomas Olney as Mari e Small. I have seen other places where his wife is given as Mary Ashton.
Kay Martin of Oak Grove, Missouri has provided me with the following. "The informa tion on Mary Ashton comes from Austin's Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island - or rathe r a correction to what was originally in that book. The source is The American Genealogist, V ol. 20, Number 4, April 1944, page 228: "Thomas Olney. His wife was not Marie Small but Mar y Ashton; their marriage was recorded in the register of St. Albans Abbey, Herts, on 16 Sep 1 629. She was baptized there on 25 Aug 1605, the daughter of James Ashton who was buried on 2 7 May 1651." Kay continues, "I don't know that that constitutes "proof", but that's what we'r e going on."
Another bit of similar information came later on from Mary E. Kelchner of Okeechob ee FL. Hers took the form of photo copies of another of issue The American Genealogist, Vol . 10 Number 2. The page numbers are 88, 89 and 90.
In October I received a letter from Winston J. Olney, of Oceanside, CA. His very i nteresting letter says, "In 1977 we spent a month driving around England, Scotland and W ales, staying in B & B's all the way. At St. Albans Cathedral, Hertsfordshire I was shown th e original hand written entry in a huge book of the marriage of Thomas Olney and Marie Ashto n on Sep't 12, 1631."
In a December letter, Winston enclosed a copy of a letter he had received from th e St. Albans Cathedral which says in part, "the correct entry is : MARY ASHTON SEPTEMBER 16t h 1629"
Father: Thomas OLNEY b: ABT 1574 in Hertford, Herefordshire, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Mary SMALL b: 1576 in Hertford, Herefordshire, England, United Kingdom
Marie (Mary) ASHTON b: BEF 25 AUG 1605 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom c: 25 AUG 1605 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom
16 SEP 1629
in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom
- Lydia OLNEY b: 1645 in Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States
- Thomas OLNEY b: 6 JUN 1632 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom c: 6 JAN 1632 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom
- Epenetus OLNEY b: 14 FEB 1634 in Hertford, Herefordshire, England, United Kingdom c: 14 FEB 1634 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom
- Stephen OLNEY b: 1639 in Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States
- Nedabiah OLNEY b: 27 JUN 1637 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, United States c: 27 AUG 1637 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, United States
- James OLNEY b: OCT 1676 in Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States
- Mary OLNEY b: 1643 in Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, United States
- Abbrev: Ancestral File (R)
Title: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R) (Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998)
Name: Footnotepyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998)
Name: Family History Library
Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
- Abbrev: Laverne Edward Olney
Title: Laverne Olney - GEDCOM file imported on 1 Sep 2000 - <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> - 2729 Berkshire LN, Kingsport, TN 37660-4769, (423) 288-2668 - info also at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=olney
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