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  • ID: I15501
  • Name: John Coltman
  • Given Name: John
  • Surname: Coltman
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1750 in Bovingdon, Hertfordshire 1
  • Christening: 15 Apr 1750 St Lawrence, Bovingdon, Hertfordshire 2
  • Death: 18 Nov 1808 in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire 1
  • Burial: 23 Nov 1808 All Saints Churchyard, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire 3 4
  • Event: Poor Rate Aft 1780 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note:

    RO Bucks Poor Rate Wycombe Borough; Page Rec no:15624 Yr: 1780 in High Wycombe.
    High Wycombe Borough Poor Rate 1780 - 1802
    1793
    John Cottman 15; 2-12s-6d
    John Venables 9-10s; 1-13s-3d
    1795 and 1796 John Coltman 15; 0-15s
    John Venables 9-10s; 0-9s-6d
    John Venables (empty) 9-10s;0-0s
    1801 Mr John Coltman 9-10s; 1-17s-6d
    1802 Mr John Coltman 9-10s; 1-8s-6d
    5
  • Occupation: Wheelwright 12 Oct 1785 Chipping Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note: Apprentice:Edward Shepherd 6
  • Occupation: Millright operating a smock mill for grinding wheat. 1788 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note:
    I have not yet discovered where this mill was, but one, now at Lacey Green, was moved there from Chesham in 1821.
    https://millsarchive.org/explore/mills/entry/1695/smock-mill-lacey-green#.WV5iBojyuwU
    7
  • Event: Advert 2 May 1789 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note: Wanted immediately - six journeymen MILLWRIGHTS that understand the Business- Good Workmen may have constant employment applying to Mr. John Coltman, of High Wycombe, Bucks 8
  • Occupation: Millwright and wheeler 1790-1798 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note: Apprentices: Henry Sanford and Robert Ray. 9
  • Occupation: Millwright 12 May 1790 Chipping Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note: Apprentice Heny Sanford 10
  • Event: Parish meeting 1794 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note:
    In the Parish council archives of High Wycombe are the minutes of the meeting on Tuesday, July 22nd 1794, showing the election of John Coltman as a Burgess.

    Haydens and Coltmans descended from this joint ancestor.
  • Event: Advert May 1794
  • Note: Mr Coltman and Mr Ware, carpenter, of Bovingdon, Herts, near Chesham, Bucks, were advertising, for an immediate start, two journeyman taylors, two carpenters and two pair of sawyers. 11
  • Occupation: Wheeler 1798 Chepping Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note:
    In 1798 he was listed in the Buckinghamshire Directory as a wheeler in the Posse Comitas. This was a list of able bodied men aged between 15 and 60, who could be called upon in case of Napoleonic invasion. His sons John and William were also listed.

    John Coltman Rank Private Enlistmented :29 May 1790 Regiment:1/24th Foot
    WO25/:947 Napoleonic War - Regimental indexes 1806
    12
  • Probate: 1808 Chepping Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
  • Note: He was now described as a Millwright.
  • Change Date: 23 Sep 2017 at 21:34
  • Note:
    (Medical):Will of John Coltman, Millwright of Chepping Wycombe, Buckinghamshire 7 December 1808 PROB 11/1489

    In All Saints Churchyard, High Wycombe, their grave states: " In memory of John Coltman who departed this life November 18 1808 aged 57, also Elizabeth wife of the above, died May 4 1814 aged 67. Thomas Coltman son of the above died February 5 1813 aged 29."




    Father: John Coltman b: 1725 in Flaunden, Hertfordshire c: 16 May 1725 in St Lawrence, Bovingdon, Hertfordshire
    Mother: Mary Cason b: 1726 in Bovingdon, Hertfordshire c: 14 Aug 1726 in St Lawrence, Bovingdon, Hertfordshire

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth Venables b: Abt 1747 in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire c: 21 Feb 1747 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
    • Married: 26 Jan 1775 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire 13
    • Event: Married by licence 1775
    • Note:
      They both signed their names to the record, witnessed by William Venables, Anna Wells her sister, and William Stanworth. Married by licence on 26 Jan 1775
      COLTMAN John, bach of this parish VENABLES Elizabeth, spin of this parish. Licence Witnesses: William Venables, William Stanworth, Ann X Wells.
      14
    • Change Date: 23 Sep 2017
    Children
    1. Has Children William Coltman b: Dec 1775 in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire c: 24 Dec 1775 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
    2. Has No Children John Coltman b: 1777 in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire c: 28 Sep 1777 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
    3. Has Children John Coltman b: in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire c: 21 Feb 1779 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
    4. Has No Children George Coltman b: 1781 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire c: 16 Sep 1781 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
    5. Has Children Thomas Coltman b: May 1783 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire c: 28 May 1783 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
    6. Has No Children George Coltman b: 1785 in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire c: 15 May 1785 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
    7. Has Children James Coltman b: Dec 1787 in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire c: 5 Dec 1787 in All Saints, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire

    Sources:
    1. Title: n/a
      Publication: FHL microfilm. Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.
      Text: Birth, baptism marriage and death records copied to microfilm or microfiche.
      Page: FHL microfilm
      Quality: 3
    2. Title: n/a
      Publication: FHL microfilm. Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.
      Text: Birth, baptism marriage and death records copied to microfilm or microfiche.
      Page: Hertfordshire archives; FHL microfilm
      Quality: 3
    3. Title: M I.
    4. Title: Parish registers.
      Text: Church records can be found in the appropriate record office relevant to the parish, including the LMA in London. Sources for High Wycombe were augmented by The EurekA Partnership series of booklets unless personally accessed in High Wycombe Library.
      Repository:
      • Title: database
        Page: http://www.hidden-ons.org.uk/FG7%20Inkpen/f20.htm.
        Quality: 3
      • Title: "Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures." Database and images.
        Author: ancestry.com
        Publication: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll.
        Text: This collection contains registers of the money received for the payment on taxes for an apprentice's indenture between 1710-1811. The registers kept track of the money paid by masters of a trade to have an apprentice. The dates in the records are for when the tax was paid and may be some years after the apprenticeship, not when it started or finished.

        Until 1752, the apprentice's parents' names were included, but afterward are rare. The records include:
        Sum received
        Name of master
        Address of master
        Trade
        Name of apprentice
        Date of articles of apprenticeship

        The masters did not have to pay stamp duty on the apprentices that were assigned by the common or public charge of any township or parish. This means a lot of apprentices won't be included in these records. Local or charity records are the best place to find records of these types of apprenticeships
        Page: (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll : accessed The National Archives reference (IR 1 series) 32 f 225).
        Quality: 3
      • Title: \i Oxford Journal\i0
        Author: findmypast.co.uk. British Library.
        Page: 15 March 1788, p. 2; digital images.
        Quality: 3
      • Title: \i Oxford Journal\i0
        Author: findmypast.co.uk. British Library.
        Page: 2 May 1789, p. 3; digital images.
        Quality: 3
      • Title: \i Universal British Directory for Buckinghamshire\i0.
        Publication: N.p.: n.p., n.d.
      • Title: "Register of Duties Paid for Apprentices' Indentures." Database and images.
        Author: ancestry.com
        Publication: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll.
        Text: This collection contains registers of the money received for the payment on taxes for an apprentice's indenture between 1710-1811. The registers kept track of the money paid by masters of a trade to have an apprentice. The dates in the records are for when the tax was paid and may be some years after the apprenticeship, not when it started or finished.

        Until 1752, the apprentice's parents' names were included, but afterward are rare. The records include:
        Sum received
        Name of master
        Address of master
        Trade
        Name of apprentice
        Date of articles of apprenticeship

        The masters did not have to pay stamp duty on the apprentices that were assigned by the common or public charge of any township or parish. This means a lot of apprentices won't be included in these records. Local or charity records are the best place to find records of these types of apprenticeships
        Page: (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll); The National Archives reference (IR 1 series) 34 f 154.
        Quality: 3
      • Title: \i Reading Mercury \i0
        Author: British Newspaper Archives.
        Publication: www.fmp.co.uk:
        Page: "p.1," 26 May 1794, online archives.
        Quality: 3
      • Title: database
        Page: Bucks Posse Comitatus 1798.
        Quality: 3
      • Title: Marriage Licence
      • Title: Digital images.
        Page: D/A/T/195 p82 BTs
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