Hill and Jackson

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  • ID: I1138
  • Name: David James Thomas?
  • Sex: M
  • _UID: 6A45961C093368458B4FA601B1D1A3B3A3FF
  • Note:
    So far, I can find no one who has documentation to prove who the father of David Sr. and Gabriel Sr. was for certain.

    There are three different theories, maybe more.

    I. David
    Some people have another David as their father. The only documentation I have seen of this is the fact two Davids were listed on the 1790 census for Rutherford County. One had young children. The other had four men over the age of 16 and three females in the household, plus a younger child or two.
    It was not uncommon for families to live together at this time, so Gabriel and his wife and child could have been living with this David, since there isn't a Gabriel on the 1790 census and we know he was there. If anyone has any other proof that their father was a David, I haven't seen it. The dates of birth for this David are inconsistent and most have him born at a too early age to be the father of Gabriel and David. Most have him only 10 to 15 when our David was born. Numerous researchers have him born in 1744. Our David Sr. was born in 1759, making the David born in 1744 15 years old when David Sr. was born. I've seen other birth dates for this David having him 12 years old when our David Sr. was born, most unlikely.

    Forrest Lyda states David was the father of our David and Gabriel based on the above and that he had other children named Levi, Charles, James and Ephraim. He also names a Margaret, but from the birth and death dates given, he is confusing this with Gabriel Sr.'s daughter Margaret "Peggy." Lyda offers no documentation as to where he got these names or the name Elizabeth as this David I. Jackson's wife. Please note, Gabriel had a son David who had a wife named Elizabeth. Many researchers believe people are getting all the David's confused and not paying close enough attention to ages, etc. There was a Levi Jackson in the census, but no documentation he was a brother of Gabriel and David.
    Also keep in mind there are two distinct sets of Jacksons in Polk County at this time. One set came from South Carolina and lived in another region of the county, bordering Spartanburg County, S.C. They were not related to David and Gabriel of Bright's Creek that anyone can discover. This line of Jacksons and has been carefully researched. Again, it is believed researchers are getting these two sets of Jacksons confused.

    II. Thomas
    Others say David and Gabriel were the sons of a Thomas Jackson from Orange County, Va., and his wife Margaret. The only reasoning I can find for this is the fact we know David and Gabriel were born in Virginia and this couple had a son named David. But I can find no documentation that he is David, the father of our David and Gabriel, and no documentation that he had a son named Gabriel. And, for reasons I don't know, some say our David and Gabriel were born in Amelia County, Va., where Thomas lived.

    III. James
    There was a James Jackson who came to Amelia, Va., from Ireland. He aquired land, married and raised three sons. He was considered one of the more prosperous farmers in the area. Before the Revolutionary War he moved his family to Guilford County, North Carolina. His sons, James and David and Gabriel, fought in the Revolutionary War. James made his will, March 4, 1785. The will provided that the bulk of his estate go to his two older sons James (2) and David (1), while Gabriel was to receive 100 acres, including the house he was living in. James died in 1789 and is buried in a rural cemetery near Greensboro. His will was probated the same year... Info from "The Beckoning Hand" by Joe C Jackson.
    There was a David Jackson who died in 1800 in Guilford County, which some say was this James' David. He was single, never married, and left his property to two nephews, Gabriel and Joseph, sons of his brother, Gabriel. If this is true, he isn't our David or the possible David, father of our David and Gabriel. Other persons on the Internet trace ancestry down from a David and James, stating they are the James and David of the above James and not our Jacksons.

    But, the Jacksons in Guilford County should not be dismissed. They all consistently carry the same names down, just as ours carry the same names down, and it is the only Jackson families with the names David and Gabriel listed together that anyone has found, to my knowledge.
    Also Gabriel Jackson Sr. has a pay voucher for his Revolutionary War service issued from Guilford County. David Sr.'s pay voucher was from Salisbury.
    The ages also fit. Our David Sr. is the older brother of Gabriel Sr. and they both served in the Revolutionary War.
    The other reason this is interesting is that David Sr.'s wife, commonly known as Margaret, but in reality Margot or Margett, was of German heritage, as evidenced by the old Medieval German Bible passed down by her family. Someone prior to her death or soon after her death tore out the pages with the family history. We have not discovered her maiden name, nor a marriage record for her and David. We do know from census records of her children that she was born in Maryland. We know she was of German heritage.
    Dates and intermarriages of the Jacksons in Guilford County coincide and intermingle with those of the Moravians from Pennsylvania and Maryland who came into Guilford County and into Old Salem.

    Orange County
    Land grant of 350 acres to Jsa: Jackson, dated 7th of January 1752

    Early Guilford County Land Map, this means living on Crane Creek:
    Jas. JACKSON, & 2 sons and free NEGRO and another James JACKSON.

    James Jackson June 8, 1787-prb. May 1789 - wife not listed. Children- Eldest son James & David, and youngest son Gabriel
    This is from Guilford County, N.C.
    From Orange County, NC.
    Jun 14, 1768, Adonijah Davenport, son of John Davenport, is killed while fighting a fire "in the field before the door of his father." A burning tree fell on him. A coroner's inquest was held, apparently at the request of John Davenport. James Jackson was on the jury.

    There were three Jacksons living in Orange County, N.C., which Guilford was part of at this time: Isaac Jackson, William Jackson, and James Jackson who were living a few miles northeast of the town of Hillsborough, Orange County, NC in the 1755 -1760 time frame.

    Some Jackson information is drawn primarily from Jackson Family Record, pp 146-8 in DAR, Record of Orange County Churches, DAR Library.

    Another fact that makes these Jacksons interesting is that Margaret, the wife of our David, was of German descent and at the same time the Jacksons moved into the area of Hillsborough and Old Salem, etc., so were the Moravians and Germans of the Lutheran Church.
  • Change Date: 1 JAN 2009 at 18:15:47

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      1. Has Children David Sr. Jackson b: 1759 in Virginia
      2. Has Children Gabriel Sr. Jackson b: 1765
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