Witherington-Widdrington family tree-a speculated line from MD to Northumberland, England

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  • ID: I66105
  • Name: Edmund SEYMOUR 1 2 3
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1340 in Woundy, Monmouthshire, England
  • ALIA: Edward SEYMOUR
  • Title: Sir
  • Event: Knighted Fact 10 NOV 1391
  • Death: 1422 in Chelvey and Tickenham, Somersetshire, England



    Marriage 1 Joan BASSET b: ABT 1350 in Tickenham, Somerset, England
      Children
      1. Has Children John SEYMOUR b: ABT 1382 in Chelvey, Somersetshire, England

      Marriage 2 Spouse Unknown
        Children
        1. Has Children John SEYMOUR b: ABT 1382 in Chelvey, Somersetshire, England

        Sources:
        1. Title: Douglas Richardson - soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
          Repository:
            Name: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com

          Note:
          Douglas Richardson - soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Source Medium: Internet
          .
          Page: aug 2009
          Text: First, we know from other records that Thomas Berkeley, of
          Tickenham, married Elizabeth Seymour, granddaughter and heiress of Sir
          Edmund Seymour, of Chelvey and Tickenham, Somerset, by his wife, Joan
          Basset. In 1414-1415 Elizabeth's grandparents, Sir Edmund and Joan
          Seymour, held a life estate in the manor of Tickenham, Somerset.
        2. Title: Douglas Richardson - soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
          Repository:
            Name: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com

          Note:
          Douglas Richardson - soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Source Medium: Internet
          .
          Page: 7-17-09
          Text: The explanation is that the names Edmund and Edward are
          interchangeable in records in this time period. Joan, widow of
          "Edward" Seymour, then wife of Thomas de la Hay, was holding the
          Seymour manor and advowson of Chelvey, Somerset for the term of her
          life in 1424-5 and again in 1428-9 [see Green, Feet of Fines for
          Somerset 4 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 22) (1906): 65, 74]. She was likewise
          holding Seymour lands in Chelvey and Migill, Somerset for the term of
          her life, together with her 3rd husband, Henry Griffith, in 1443-4
          [see Green, Feet of Fines for Somerset 4 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 22)
          (1906): 106]. She was still living as late as 1446, when her husband,
          Henry Griffith, presented to the church of Chelvey, Somerset [see
          Weaver, Somerset Incumbents (1889): 250]. Her life interest in the
          Seymour lands was presumably held in right of dower by virtue of her
          marriage to Sir Edmund Seymour who died back in 1422. She was
          obviously much younger than Sir Edmund Seymour, as Sir Edmund died as
          an old man in 1422, whereas Joan was still living in 1446. At Joan's
          death, these lands appears to have passed to her daughter, Joan
          [presumbly Seymour], wife of Robert Stanshaw and John Bonefaunt.

          It is possible that the elder Joan was the wife of a younger son of
          Sir Edmund Seymour named Edward Seymour, but since there is no
          indication that Sir Edmund settled the lands in question on a younger
          son, I assume it was Sir Edmund himself who was Joan's husband. What
          typically took place when a man married a younger wife was for him to
          settle part of his estates on himself and his new wife for life, with
          reversion to their issue. This kind of arrangement secured lands to
          the new wife if she survived her husband and provided for their issue,
          if any survived. If the issue failed, the lands usually reverted back
          to the husband's senior heirs by his first or earlier marriages, which
          appears to be what happened in this case, as the Ashe family later
          held the advowson of Chelvey, Somerset.

          Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
        3. Author: Frederick Arthur Crisp, Frederick Brown
          Title: Abstracts of Somersetshire wills, etc: copied from the manuscript ..., Volume 4
          Publication: Name: Priv. print. for F. A. Crisp; Date: 1889;
          Repository:
            Name: Google Book

          Note:
          Frederick Arthur Crisp, Frederick Brown, Abstracts of Somersetshire wills, etc: copied from the manuscript ..., Volume 4 (Priv. print. for F. A. Crisp, 1889).
          Text: 29 p EDMUND ST MAUR Kn Lord of S Brigett Nether Went & of L 1 Chelvey Somerset Will dated S Lawrence day 1421 1 proved 1 June 1422 by John Adam power reserved 54 Marche To be buried in the Church of S Brigett Chelvey if I die in England but if in Wales in the Church of S Brigett Nether Went Legacies to the Augustine Friars Bristol Friars preachers Friars Minors Carmelite Friars & the fabric of the Chapel of the Blessed Mary of S Brigett Nether Went Robert FitzJames Rector of Blakwell 3 30 & Philip 3 Rector of Brockley 30 The sd Robert FitzJames & others Exors Residue of my goods to be distributed for the good of the souls of my father & mother Johanne my wife Margerie my daughter my sons & my brother Richard
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