Descendants of DUNCAN CARMICHAEL [I281] of Halifax Co., VA

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  • ID: I281
  • Name: Duncan CARMICHAEL
  • Given Name: Duncan
  • Surname: Carmichael
  • Suffix: Sr
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: Abt 1730 in probably N. Ireland or PA
  • Note: Assuming Duncan was at least 20 when his first son Archibal d was born in Halifax Co. VA 1754 (see notes for 1754-175 5 land record),, he would have been born before 1734. See M isc event notes for Duncan Carmichael origins.
  • Death: Abt 1783 in Halifax, VA
  • Note:
    See 1782 Halifax Co. VA Tax notes for Duncan's son Archibal d.
  • Burial: Abt 1783
  • Note: The burial site of Duncan and Sarah is unknown, but there a re three likely possiblities. They could have been buried a t their homestead in Halifax County VA where they died abou t 1783. However, their two sons Archibald and Duncan Jr ha d moved in 1777 to adjoining Caswell Co. NC, so they probab ly sold their parent's land at their death, and they may ha ve buried them in Caswell Co. Between 1800 and 1811 Archiba ld and Duncan Jr moved again to Surry/Stokes Counties NC wh ere they remained until their deaths. They started a Carmic hael family cemetery there a few years after arriving wher e they and most of their familiy members were buried, s o a third possiblity is that they relocated their parent' s remains there. None of these possibilities can be verifie d as most of the headstones were native field stones whic h have crumbled so that the inscriptions are gone.
  • Event: Duncan Carmichael Origins Misc Bef 1754 probably N. Ireland or PA
  • Note:
    Duncan Carmichael was my 6th g'g'father, my most distant pr oven ancestor. The following paragraphs present a significa nt body of circumstantial evidence which, while not conside red conclusive, supports a scenario that Duncan migrated ab out 1753 to VA from Lancaster/Cumberland County (present da y Franklin Co.) PA which had a large Ulster Scot community , including an extended Carmichael family. In the excellen t first American Carmichael family history book, publishe d in 1935 by Maj. Gen. Roderick Carmichael, the author stat ed that his research indicated that Duncan's family was tra ditionally considered to be Ulster Scots. This is consisten t with the fact that Duncan's sons Archibald and Duncan Jr , and his son-in-law Richard Smithy, all left their familie s to serve with the Continental Army during the Revolutiona ry War, Duncan Jr being wounded, and Richard Smithey bein g killed. The Scots-Irish overwhelmingly supported the Revo lutionary cause as opposed to Scots from the western Isle s (including the Isle of Lismore in Appin which had a signi ficant population of Carmichaels), most of whom either eith er supported the Royalist side, or remained neutral.

    There were other Carmichaels who settled near the Dan Rive r about the same time as Duncan, and who may provide additi onal clues to his origins. The Norfolk VA Order Book for 17 60 mentions a "Robert Carmichael & Co., merchants of Glasgo w, late of VA". Robert (ID#449) is documented in Halifax C ounty NC (not VA) deed records from 1761 to 1772 at Fishin g Creek where he and his two partners had a trading busines s which was confiscated by the British during the Revolutio nary War. No indication of a family connection between Robe rt and Duncan has been found, however.

    Coincidentally (perhaps), another Carmichael family also se ttled along the Dan River around 1750 in western NC, abou t 70 miles upriver from Duncan and his brothers. This famil y was part of the great Ulster Scot migration that occurre d at this time from PA to Augustus County VA (created in 17 45), and continuing across the Dan River to adjoining Anso n County NC (created in 1750) and SC. Anson County probat e records show that a John Carmichael (Sr, #431) died ther e intestate in 1750, and a William Carmichael (#15899), bel ieved to be a brother, administered his estate. William hel d an estate sale where John's children bought his belonging s, described as being located in PA, to be delivered by wag on to Rowan County (this area of NC was in Anson County i n 1750, becoming Orange County in 1752, Rowan County in 175 3, Surry County in 1770, and Stokes County in 1789 as new c ounties were created). A second John Carmichael (probably J ohn's son, John Jr) appears in the earliest records of bot h Augustus County VA in 1746, and Rowan County NC in 1750 . He died in Rowan County in 1759, in the same area where J ohn Sr had died in 1750. John Jr, Thomas, and William Carmi chael (not the same William who conducted John Sr's estat e sale) all applied for adjoining Granville grants in 175 2 on Town Fork Creek near present day Hanging Rock State Pa rk, west of Danbury NC, and Joseph Carmichael was a witnes s for John Jr and Thomas. They were probably four brothers , sons of John Carmichael Sr. John Jr acquired some 5,000 a cres there by the time of his death. This family group an d their descendants had mostly died or left the area for ot her states by 1792. A notable exception was Priscilla Carmi chael (#356), believed to be the widow of the aforementione d John (Sr) who died in 1750. Priscilla lived to the grea t age of 113 (b. 1705), dieing at nearby Pilot Mountain i n Surry County in 1818. Her obituary states that she had 1 9 children, and while only her first child Elizabeth has be en conclusively identified, they probably include the fou r Rowan County brothers. Some of her other children could h ave died young, a common occurance at this time. The two so ns of this subject Duncan Carmichael, Archibald and Dunca n Jr, and their children moved between 1800-1812 (after th e Rowan Co. Carmichaels had mostly left) to this same are a which was then in Stokes County. This is another surprisi ng coincidence, like the Rowan Co. NC and Halifax Co. VA Ca rmichaels both settling along the Dan River about 1750-1753 , but some 70 miles apart.

    Cornelius Carmichael appears on the tax roll for Halifax Co unty VA in 1782, shortly before Duncan's death. He is belie ved to be the same Cornelius Carmichael (#2702) who reporte dly emigrated from Ulster Ireland to Hamilton Township, Lan caster, PA, about 1730 (this area was in Chester County bef ore 1729, and in Cumberland County in 1750). Cornelious ma y have been an uncle to Duncan and his brothers, Jeremiah a nd John (see notes for Cornelius and his sons for more deta ils). His three sons served in the Rev. War as did Duncan' s two sons and son-in-law. Cornelius had grandchildren name d Duncan and Archibald, the names of this subject and his s ons. Cornelius was of an age to be a brother to John Sr an d William in Rowan County NC who were mentioned previously . Most of Cornelius' children moved from Cumberland Count y PA to Washington County TN between about 1785-1792, not f ar west from where the Rowan County Carmichaels had settled , and where Duncan's two sons and their descendants moved b etween 1800-1812.

    SUMMARY & CONCLUSIONS

    Considering this entire body of evidence, it supports a via ble scenario (although it is not considered proven) that th e Carmichaels of Halifax County VA, and of Anson/Rowan Coun ties NC, were related, being Ulster Scots who had probabl y migrated from Lancaster/Cumberland County PA where an ext ended immigrant Carmichael family had settled earlier. Bot h Carmichael groups used common given names for their child ren and grandchildren (e.g., Archibald, Duncan, John, Willi am). See the notes for John Carmichael (Sr, #431) who die d in Rowan County in 1750 for additional comments, includin g a family tradition of a disagreement between two Carmicha el families which led to their separating, and some even ch anging the spelling of their names. This is discussed in th e first published American Carmichael family history book , written by Maj. Gen. Roderick Carmichael in 1935 (see sou rces). A scenario that is consistent with this tradition i s that the father of Duncan, Jeremiah, and John was the Wil liam Carmichael (#15899) mentioned above who administered t he estate of his presumed brother John Carmichael (#431). T here may have been a disagreement between the two familie s over the settlement of John's estate which led to William 's three sons moving to VA to separate themselves from John 's children in Rowan (later Surry/Stokes) County NC. Also , refer to the notes for Joseph Carmichael (abt 1675-1766 , #2067) who lived in Little Britain Township, Lancaster, P A (which became Cumberland Co. in 1750), and who may have b een a direct ancestor of these Carmichaels.
    1
  • Event: , 370 acres, Land 1754-1755 Amelia, VA
  • Note: Duncomb Carmichael bought 370 acres in Amelia Co. VA in Fe b 1754, and sold it in July 1755. NOTE: Duncomb is a clerk' s misspelling of Duncan; this is verified in the 1880 Censu s record for Duncan's g'son Solomon who stated that his fat her Duncan Jr was born in VA (i.e., Duncan, aka Duncomb, wa s in Amelia Co. in 1754 and 1755 when his sons Archibald an d Duncan Jr were born).
  • _DETAIL: NO
  • _CIT: NO 2
  • Occupation: tobacco farmer 1754-1783 VA
  • Note: It is a family tradition that Duncan and his sons were toba cco farmers which was the predominate occupation in this ar ea at the time.
  • Event: Duncan Carmichael Tax 1764 Lunenburg, VA
  • Note: Duncan had moved to Lunenburg County between 1755 and 1764. 3
  • Event: to a will Witness 31 Jan 1773 Halifax, VA
  • Note: Duncan was in Halifax Co.VA (formed from Lunenburg Co. in 1 752) in 1773. He and his brother John witnessed the will o f Josiah Sullins who was married to Lavinia Witt, sister o f Duncan's daughter-in-law Charity Witt.
  • _DETAIL: NO
  • _CIT: NO 4
  • Residence: 1777 Halifax, VA
  • Note: Duncan settled on the bank of the Dan River in Halifax Co . VA sometime between 1764 and 1777. In 1777 Caswell Co. N C was formed across the Dan River from Duncan's property, a nd Duncan's sons Duncan Jr and Archibald, and his brother J eremiah, moved there and applied for land grants. Duncan Jr 's grant was issued in 1778, and it states that it adjoine d his father's property in Halifax Co. VA.
  • _DETAIL: NO
  • _CIT: NO 5
  • _UID: 27D45BA8BA614F0A8688624FF402971AD88E
  • Change Date: 18 Sep 2017 at 08:03
  • Note:
    My family history is posted on both Ancestry.com and on Roo tsWeb.ancestry.com. The formatting on the RootsWeb site i s closer to my submitted Gedcom - John C. Carmichael (1939- ).

    https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/1137405 82/family

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    Father: William CARMICHAEL b: Abt 1700 in probably N. Ireland

    Marriage 1 Sarah ENSLEY b: Bef 1735 in probably N. Ireland or PA
    • Married: Bef 1754 in probably PA
    • Note: Duncan and Sarah were in Amelia, VA in 1754-1755 when thei r two sons were born, so they were probably newlyweds. The y could have been married in Lancaster/Cumberland Co., PA p rior to migrating to VA (see birth notes for Sarah and mis c notes for Duncan indicating possible connections there).
    • Change Date: 25 Jul 2017
    Children
    1. Has Children Archibald CARMICHAEL b: 4 Sep 1754 in Amelia, VA
    2. Has Children Duncan CARMICHAEL b: 11 May 1755 in Amelia, VA
    3. Has Children Nancy CARMICHAEL b: Aft 1755 in VA

    Sources:
    1. Media: Book
      Abbrev: Scottish Highlander Carmichaels of the Carolinas
      Title: "The Scottish Highlander Carmichaels of the Carolinas"
      Author: Maj. Gen. Roderick Leland Carmichael
      Publication: 1935
      Page: P. 25, 28, 63
      Quality: 3
    2. Abbrev: Amelia Co. VA Deeds
      Title: Deed Books 5&6, Deeds 1753-1759, Amelia Co., VA
      Author: Amelia Co. VA
      Text: (P. 328) Deed. DUNCOMB (X) CARMICAL to George Lewis, D. Jul y 24, 1755. Consid: 40 pounds. 370 acres commonly called "M artin's Spring", bounded as by deed from John Owensby to sd . Carmical on Feb. 27, 1754. Wits: (none listed).

      (P. 329) possesion obtained by George Lewis & deed ordere d rec. on July 24 1755.
      Note:
      The name Duncomb is a clerk's misspelling of Duncan; This i s verified in the 1880 Census record for Duncan's g'son Sol omon who stated that his father Duncan Jr was born in VA (i .e., Duncan, aka Duncomb, was in Amelia Co. in 1754 and 175 5 when his sons Archibald and Duncan Jr were born).
      Page: 1754 & 1755, Duncomb Carmichael
      Quality: 2
    3. Abbrev: Lunenburg Co VA Tithe List
      Title: Sunlight on the South Side, List of Tithes, Lunenburg Co. V A, 1748-1783, p. 249.
      Publication: Philadelphia: George S. Ferguson Co., 1931
      Text: "The list of tithables taken by Edmund Taylor in Lunenbg. C ounty, St. James Parish, for the year 1764. ....DUNCAN CARM ICHAEL, 1 tithe, 0 land."
      Page: 1764, Duncan Carmichael
      Quality: 4
      Text: (P. 249). "The list of tithables taken by Edmund Taylor i n Lunenbg. County, St. James Parish, for the year 1764. ... .DUNCAN CARMICHAEL, 1 tithe, 0 land."
    4. Abbrev: Halifax Co VA Will Book I (1773-1783)
      Title: Will Book I, 1773-1783, Halifax Co. VA
      Author: Marian Dodson Chiarito
      Publication: Marian Dodson Chiarito
      Text: August Court 1773
      In the name of God amen I Josiah SULLENS of the parish of A ntrim in the County of Halifax being sick and weake in bod y but of sound and perfect memory thanks be to God for th e same and knowing the uncertainty of this Earthly Life d o make and declare this my last Will and Testament in manne r and form following vis. first and principally I recommen d my Sole to God who gave it trusting in his mercies and i n the merits of my dearce Redeemer for the Remission of al l my sins desireing My Body may be Decently intored at th e discretsion of my Ex«sup»r«/sup». heareafter Named and a s to the temporal estate that it pleas'd almighty God to be stow upon me I do desire that as much of my household Good s and Stock Should be sold as will pay my Just debts; Ite m I desire that what is left of paying my debts my Wife ma y have it I desire also that my Wife may have the land whea re I now live during her widowhood or 'til my Youngest so n comes of age and then to be sold or if my Wife marries be fore my youngest sun comes of age and then to be sold and t he money to be eaquelly divided between my three Suns Zacca riah, Jesse, and Joseph and my Wife Lavinia. I leave my Bro ther John SULLENS Ex«sup»r«/sup». as Witness my hand this 3 1st day of January 1773 Solomon KING John CARMICHEL Josia h SULLENS Dunkan CARMICHEL At a Court held for Halifax Coun ty the 19th day of August 1773 This will was presented in C ourt by John SULLINS the Executor herein named who made oat h hereto, and the same being proved by the Oath of two of t he Witnesses hereto, was ordered to be recorded and on th e motion of the said Executor Certificate was granted him f or obtaining a probat hereof in due form. Nathan SULLINS, J ohn CARMICHAEL and Duncan CARMICHAEL became his Securitie s and they entered into and acknowledged bond according t o Law. Test Truly recorded P. CARRINGTON Clk. Test J. CARRI NGTON Clk. [Halifax County, Virginia, Will Book 1, page 20]
      Page: 1773, Josiah Sullins
      Quality: 4
      Note: P. 5, # 20. Duncan and his brother John witnessed the wil l of Josiah Sullins, written 31 Jan 1773 and probated 19 Au g 1773. Josiah married Lavinia Witt, sister of Duncan's dau ghter-in-law Charity Witt.
    5. Abbrev: Caswell Co NC Land Grants, Tax Lists, State Census
      Title: Caswell Co. NC Land Grants, Tax Lists, State Census, ...
      Author: Katherine Kerr Kendall
      Publication: Katherine Kerr Kendall, 1977
      Text: Caswell Co., NC Deeds:
      (P. 4) 300 ac. on Shaws Mill Creek, St. Lawrence Dist., Cas well Co., NC to DUNCAN CARMICHAEL JR., joining property i n Halifax Co VA of DUNCAN CARMICHAEL SR, dated 12 Mar 1778 . Also, another 160 ac. in same location on 12 Jun 1778.
      Page: 1778, Duncan Carmichael Jr
      Quality: 4
      Text: Caswell Co., NC Deeds:
      (P. 4) 300 ac. on Shaws Mill Creek, St. Lawrence Dist., Cas well Co., NC to DUNCAN CARMICHAEL JR., joining property i n Halifax Co VA of DUNCAN CARMICHAEL SR, dated 12 Mar 1778 . Also, another 160 ac. in same location on 12 Jun 1778.

      State Census of NC for Caswell Co., 1786: Gloucester Distr ict, ARCHIBALD & JEREMIAH CARMICAL.
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