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  • ID: I2668
  • Name: Nicholas Phillips
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 12 FEB 1784 1 2
  • Death: 6 JUL 1862 in Guysboro, Bayham Township, Elgin, Ontario, Canada 3 1 4
  • Event: 1851 Census 1851 Guysboro, Bayham Township, Ontario, Canada 5
  • Event: Fact No. 1 1849 Sharehold of the Ingersoll & Port Burwell Road Company in Elgin County, Ontario and held three shares in said toll road 6
  • Event: 1861 Census 1861 Guysboro, Bayham Township, Ontario, Canada 7
  • Event: 1842 Census 1842 Bayham Township, Elgin County, Ontario 8
  • Note:
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    Subject: Re: Nicholas Phillips - + 1862 - Record sources?
    Author: Jim McCallum
    Date: 28 May 2003 1:56 AM GMT
    Email: mccallum@cyg.net
    Hi Rod The 1851 and 1861 census for Bayham township are not online, but have been transcribed and indexed by the Elgin County Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society.

    In 1851, Nicholas Phillips is found in Division 2, page 42. He is a farmer, age 68, married. Wife - Effey, born Ontario, age 57. Living with them are Henry, age 26, Abraham, age 23, Lewis, age 21, Peter, age 14 and J. Ann, age 18. All are born in Ontario and Wesleyan Methodist in religion. The Agricultural census for that year shows N. Phillips on lot 135, concession 7.

    On the 1861 census, Nicholas is found on page 75, which is in Division 4. Here he is age 77, born US, farmer. "Efie" is age 66, born Ontario. Living with them are Peter, age 23, and Abraham, age 32. On the same page is a Louis Phillips, age 30, with wife Rhoda, age 24, and children Leonard, age 1, Martha, age 4 and Mary age 2. Ann Phillips is enumerated by herself on the same page, age 18. The cemetery transcriptions for Bayham are found on the Elgin OGS website (linked to this site). Hope this information helps

    THIS IS MY REPLY TO THAT INFORMATION

    Jim - You are a saint. Thank you so very much.

    This explains a lot - but also leads to a more questions on my end. Please understand that what I obtained appears to the be the first 1/2 of her 20+ years of research - so, some answers may be in some other boxes yet (?) to arrive.

    I am starting to think that the family "condensed" a set of Nicholas' into one group of folks. Here is how I get to that conclusion with what you provided and what I have.

    Ruth wrote a booklet on the family in 1995 - and she acknowledges that she was not completely done with her research. I have provided those paragraphs below - and also the listing of the Phillips when captured and taken prisoner in 1778.

    Now based upon the link to the Cemetery Transcriptions - in the Guysboro cemetery I find that:

    190. Concrete.

    Matthew C. PHILLIPS/ died Nov. 14, 1904/aged/84 yrs 6 mos/& 4 dys/Our Father/PHILLIPS

    191. White marble rectangular stone, clasped hands.

    Farewell/Nicholas PHILIPS/died/July 6, 1862/aged/78 years/4 mos & 24 ds.

    So, that puts Nicholas Philips, Hannah's father, as being born about 12 Feb 1784. Which corresponds to the 1861 census materials you posted...So he cannot be the Nicholas Phillips, Jr. captured in 1778. So, he is probably the son of one of those three men captured. But which???

    Obviously, I have a lot more work to do!

    Thanks for the census information and the links...I appreciate the help tremendously.

    Rod Fleck
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    Here are two paragraphs:

    "Hannah's father was Nicholis Phillips, son of a well-to-do landowner of New York. The Phillips found on the side of the British in the Revolutionary War. They ended the war as members of Butlers Rangers. After the War, the Phillips were granted land in Ontario, Canada. Nicholis Phillips, Sr. was able to return to New York, eventually, where he died.

    Nichol's wife, Hannah, died during the birth of her seventh child. The child was named Hannah."
    .....
    Nicholis Phillips Story

    Nicholis Phillips was from a family who lived in the Tunkhannack area of New York, about 40 miles from Wyoming on the Susquehanna River. When the Revolutionary War started, the Phillips family took the side of the British as did the majority of the Colonists. The father, Nicholis Phillips and his sons were captured and confined for eighteen months in 5 different jails, enduing up in Hartford, Conneticut. They escaped from that Jail and joined Butler's Rangers in 1777. Nicholis Phillips and his sons were given land in Ontario. Nicholis Phillips, Sr. returned after the war to Genesee County, where he died.

    The Nicholis Phillips of Guysboror is his son. He lived first at Ancaster, just west of Tornoto. He moved by ox team to Guysboro. The town of Guysboro does not exists anym ore, but the cemetery where Nicholis is buried is large and well-tended and his stone is prominent. He was one of the first settlers of that area. It is just south of the town of Tilsonburg, not too far from Lake Erie.

    Nichols married twice. First to Hannah by whom he had eight children. She died with the eight, and that girl was named Hannah. He next married Effie by whom he had five children."
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    NIAGARA PENINSULA BRANCH, ONTARIO GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY, Notes from Niagra, "Electronic," May 1993 edition on line (http://people.becon.org/~nbogs/note9305.html), Here is one example of an interesting document found through the Index to the Papers of the Continental Congress, 1774-1789:

    "A List of Prisoners in the hands of the Congress belonging to the Corps of Rangers Royalists and their Families" [excerpt] (U.S. National Archives microfilm publication M247, reel 183, item 166, page 489):

    Peter TENBROECK Esq. Capt. in the Corps of Rangers
    Lt. BOWEN

    Privates of the Corps of Rangers Taken on the Susquehannah in 1778

    Philip BUCH Edward HICKS
    Jacob BRUNNER Edward HICKS Jun.
    Redman BERRY John HOVER
    Frederick FRANK Jacob BOWMAN Jnr.
    Oldrich SHUTT John S. YOUNGE
    Nicholas PHILLIPS Thomas SILKE (?)
    Nicholas PHILLIPS Jun. Adam BOWMAN Jnr.
    John PHILLIPS
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    [Not posted in the reply but relevant to the children of these folks (Nicholas - Hannah; Nicholas - Eve/Effie]

    Probate of Estate of Nichols Phillips, (Elgin County, Ontario - Surrogate Court, Elgin County, Ontario), Will executed in 1844 in Bayham, which was then partof Middlesex, London District, of Upper Canada. Lists the following as children -- however, wife at the time of execution is Eve.

    Daniel, George, Mathew, Henry, Abner, Abraham, Lewis, Hiram, Gilbert, Peter
    Elizabeth, Agnes, Hannah, and Jamme, Ann (last two names could be for one person).

    Probate notes that he died on 6 Jul 1862 in Bayham, Elgin County, Ontario.
    .




    Father: Nicholas Phillips b: 1756 in Corry's Bush, Mohawk Valley, NY

    Marriage 1 Hannah McKay
    • Married: in West Flamboro Township, Wentworth County, Ontario
    Children
    1. Has No Children Abner Phillips
    2. Has No Children Daniel Phillips
    3. Has No Children Gilbert Phillips
    4. Has No Children Hiram Phillips
    5. Has Children Elizabeth Phillips b: 1808 in Canada
    6. Has Children George Keefer Phillips b: ABT 1818 in Bayham, Elgin, Ontario, Canada
    7. Has Children Matthew Crooks Phillips b: 10 MAY 1820 in West Flamboro Township, Wentworth, Ontario Canada
    8. Has Children Agnes Phillips b: 16 AUG 1822 in Canada
    9. Has Children Hannah R. Phillips b: 21 SEP 1824 in Guysboro, Elgin, Ontario, Canada

    Marriage 2 Eve\Effie Alward b: 1795 in Ontario Children
    1. Has No Children Henry M. Phillips b: 1825
    2. Has No Children Abraham Phillips b: 1828
    3. Has Children Lewis W. Phillips b: 1830
    4. Has Children Jamme Ann Phillips b: 1834 in Ontario
    5. Has Children Peter C. Phillips b: 18 NOV 1838 in Elgin, Ontario, Canada

    Sources:
    1. Title: Guysboro Cemetery - Bayham Township, Elgin County, Ontario, Canada
      Author: DATA ENTRY : M. F. Doan; PROOF READING: Marg. Daugharty; Revised and formatted for the Internet 24 November 2002 by Bruce C. Johnson Jr.
      Publication: Ontario Genealogical Society, Elgin County Branch - http://home.ican.net/~bedmonds/ElginOGS/cemeteries/bayham/guysboro.htm
      Repository:
      Media: Electronic
      Text: 191. White marble rectangular stone, clasped hands.

      Farewell/Nicholas PHILIPS/died/July 6, 1862/aged/78 years/4 mos & 24 ds.
    2. Title: Correspondence of Orrena Buchner Hanley
      Publication: Exchange of letters with Ruth Herbig - Mar-Aug 1985; 510 Salem Avenue, Tornoto, Ontario, M6H 3E1
      Repository:
      Media: Letter
      Text: I am not sure but it would appear that our Nicholas Phillips who was born 1784 and who died July 6, 1862 was not a son of the older Nicholas but was instead a grandson. Of course I can't prove it. Had he been a son, he would have received a grant of land but instead went up to Bayham Township, Elgin County, where he got land from Col. Thomas Talbot of the Talbot Settlement. He was given 59 [acres] free but had to buy the other 150 acres. Of course he had to do settlement dutites in order to received this land. He had to have been a son of either Jacob or Nicholas, Jr.
    3. Title: Probate of Estate of Nichols Phillips
      Publication: Elgin County, Ontario - Surrogate Court, Elgin County, Ontario
      Repository:
      Media: Official Document
      Text: Will executed in 1844 in Bayham, which was then partof Middlesex, London District, of Upper Canada. Lists the following as children -- however, wife at the time of execution is Eve.

      Daniel, George, Mathew, Henry, Abner, Abraham, Lewis, Hiram, Gilbert, Peter
      Elizabeth, Agnes, Hannah, and Jamme, Ann (last two names could be for one person).

      Probate notes that he died on 6 Jul 1862 in Bayham, Elgin County, Ontario.


      ]LNAME[ PHILLIPS
      FNAME[ NICHOLAS
      RESID[ BAYHAM
      DATE[ JUL 6, 1862
      FILE[ 76
      MFNO[ 1375
      NOTES[ - executors were Abraham Hunsberger,
      William Hatch, of Bayham, who declined in favour
      of Mrs. Eve Phillips, the widow
      - children: Daniel; George; Matthew;
      Henry; Abner; Abraham; Lewis; Hiram;
      Gilbert; Peter; Elizabeth; Agnes; Hannah;
      Jemima Ann
      Elgin County Library have indexed the Surrogate Court Records for the London District and Elgin County from 1800 to 1900. For the London District, all the available records were indexed. Elgin County was formed in 1853
    4. Title: Gilbert Descendants
      Author: Ruth Herbig
      Publication: 1994 -
      Note: Research summary of work Ruth has done over about twenty years.
      Repository:
      Media: Book
      Text: Nicholis Phillips Story

      Nicholis Phillips was from a family who lived in the Tunkhannack area of New York, about 40 miles from Wyoming on the Susquehanna River. When the Revolutionary War started, the Phillips family took the side of the British as did the majority of the Colonists. The father, Nicholis Phillips and his sons were captured and confined for eighteen months in 5 different jails, enduing up in Hartford, Conneticut. They escaped from that Jail and joined Butler's Rangers in 1777. Nicholis Phillips and his sons were given land in Ontario. Nicholis Phillips, Sr. returned after the war to Genesee County, where he died.

      The Nicholis Phillips of Guysboror is his son. He lived first at Ancaster, just west of Tornoto. He moved by ox team to Guysboro. The town of Guysboro does not exists anym ore, but the cemetery where Nicholis is buried is large and well-tended and his stone is prominent. He was one of the first settlers of that area. It is just south of the town of Tilsonburg, not too far from Lake Erie.

      Nichols married twice. First to Hannah by whom he had eight children. She died with the eight, and that girl was named Hannah. He next married Effie by whom he had five children."
    5. Title: 1851 Census
      Page: transcribed and indexed by the Elgin County Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society. Courtesy of Jim McCallum - Chair (mccallum@cyg.net)
      Text: In 1851, Nicholas Phillips is found in Division 2, page 42. He is a farmer, age 68, married. Wife - Effey, born Ontario, age 57. Living with them are Henry, age 26, Abraham, age 23, Lewis, age 21, Peter, age 14 and J. Ann, age 18. All are born in Ontario and Wesleyan Methodist in religion. The Agricultural census for that year shows N. Phillips on lot 135, concession 7.
    6. Title: Ingersoll & Port Burwell Road Company - 1849 - History and Comments
      Author: Robert G. Moore - 2002
      Publication: Elgin County Branch, Ontario Genealogical Society - http://home.ican.net/~bedmonds/ElginOGS/onlinepubs/ingersoll.htm
      Repository:
      Media: Electronic
      Text: Philips, Nicholas 3
    7. Title: 1861 Census
      Page: transcribed and indexed by the Elgin County Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society. Courtesy of Jim McCallum - Chair (mccallum@cyg.net)
      Text: On the 1861 census, Nicholas is found on page 75, which is in Division 4. Here he is age 77, born US, farmer. "Efie" is age 66, born Ontario. Living with them are Peter, age 23, and Abraham, age 32. On the same page is a Louis Phillips, age 30, with wife Rhoda, age 24, and children Leonard, age 1, Martha, age 4 and Mary age 2. Ann Phillips is enumerated by herself on the same page, age 18. The cemetery transcriptions for Bayham are found on the Elgin OGS website (linked to this site).
    8. Title: Census Index to 1842 Bayham Township, Elgin County, Ontario
      Page: Page 7
      Text: Phillips, Nicholis, Farmer, place of origins Canada, 10 members of family, Lot135, Concession NTR, 800 acres.
    9. Title: Probate of Estate of Nichols Phillips
      Publication: Elgin County, Ontario - Surrogate Court, Elgin County, Ontario
      Repository:
      Media: Official Document
      Text: Probate of Estate of Nichols Phillips, (Elgin County, Ontario - Surrogate Court, Elgin County, Ontario), Will executed in 1844 in Bayham, which was then partof Middlesex, London District, of Upper Canada. Lists the following as children -- however, wife at the time of execution is Eve.

      Daniel, George, Mathew, Henry, Abner, Abraham, Lewis, Hiram, Gilbert, Peter
      Elizabeth, Agnes, Hannah, and Jamme, Ann (last two names could be for one person).

      Probate notes that he died on 6 Jul 1862 in Bayham, Elgin County, Ontario.
    10. Title: Correspondence of Orrena Buchner Hanley
      Publication: Exchange of letters with Ruth Herbig - Mar-Aug 1985; 510 Salem Avenue, Tornoto, Ontario, M6H 3E1
      Repository:
      Media: Letter
      Text: Nicholas is said to have married a widow, Effie Cline. Her married name was Smith and she is said to have come to Nicholas with her own seven children. Then they are supposed to have had seven more children. I cant begin to find out all of their names as so many went to the states and settled in Michigan. Not long ago I had a letter from a man in Illinois who gave me a lot of information on these sons who emigrated. The trouble is we aren't sure which sons came from the first wife and which came from the second wife. Effie, the 2nd wife died but no death date, and is buried in another plot. Maybe her first husband lies there.
    11. Title: History of Sanilac County (Michigan)
      Page: 227
      Text: Peter C. Phillips, farmer, Section 27, Evergreen Township, was born Nov. 18, 1838, in Elgin Co., Can., and is the son of Nicholas and Effie (Alward) Phillips. The former was born in 1776 in Schoharie Co., NY., was a farmer all of his life, and died in 1862. The mother was born in 1793, in Canada. She is still living in the Dominion, at the advanced age of 91 years.
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