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  • ID: I12257
  • Name: Arena Susan Irena Irene VINCENT
  • Given Name: Arena Susan Irena Irene
  • Surname: Vincent
  • Sex: F
  • _UID: 7B90DA83B46C4C51B85CBA4FF3567AFAFF7F
  • _FSFTID: LZJ9-PZS
  • Change Date: 12 JUN 2015
  • Note:
    2013mar from Tommy Lee Childers - user633879 (at) aol.com
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    Using that new research database we discovered recently
    (https://familysearch.org/) I located some very interesting information about
    some descendents of Charles Preston Childers and Alzada Beeman.
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    A son of Charles and Alzada was Roy Henry Childers. According to a marriage
    record I discovered last night he married Emma G. Howe in Colorado. They had
    two children, then apparently he and she promptly left both with the parents of
    Emma to raise. I saw this same situation once in an unrelated family in the
    town where I grew up.
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    1900 United States Federal Census
    Name: Emma Howe
    Age: 4
    Birth Date: May 1896
    Birthplace: Missouri
    Home in 1900: Lone Oak, Bates, Missouri
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Relation to Head of House: Daughter
    Marital Status: Single
    Father's Name: John Howe
    Father's Birthplace: Illinois
    Mother's name: Rena Howe
    Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
    Household Members: Name Age
    John Howe 49
    Rena Howe 38
    Murtie Howe 17 Monta Elizabeth Howe. Find A Grave Memorial# 79605417
    Arthur Howe 15
    Charles Howe 13
    Pealie Howe 11 Pearl Howe
    Florence Howe 8
    Emma Howe 4
    Gentry Howe 2

    1910 United States Federal Census
    Name: Emma S Howe
    Age in 1910: 13
    Birth Year: 1897
    Birthplace: Missouri
    Home in 1910: MT Pleasant, Bates, Missouri
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Relation to Head of House: Daughter
    Marital Status: Single
    Father's Name: John W Howe
    Father's Birthplace: Missouri
    Mother's name: Irena S Howe
    Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
    Household Members: Name Age
    John W Howe 52
    Irena S Howe 47
    Pearl S Howe 20
    Florence M Howe 18
    Emma S Howe 13
    Gentry A Howe 11

    Note: neither I nor the software can find Roy's wife Emma in the 1920 nor any
    subsequent census. TLC March 1, 2013

    Colorado State Archives
    Record Type: Marriage License
    Archive Location:
    Name: Childers, Roy H.
    Year: 1916 Month: Jul Day: 4
    Spouse: Howe, Emma G.
    http://accipiter.state.co.us/archive/publicrecordview.do?instrumentId=1294307
    Then it seems Roy married another woman in Montana, while still married to
    Emma, unless this record means that the marriage happened then they recorded
    the fact. Tuck, what would you say about this?

    Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950
    Name: Roy H. Childers
    Event Type: Marriage
    Event Date: 22 Aug 1925
    Event Place: Billings, Yellowstone, Montana
    Age: 34
    Marital Status: Married
    Race: White
    Birthplace: Butte, Montana
    Birth Year (Estimated): 1891
    Father's Name: Charles P. Childers
    Mother's Name: Alzada Beeman
    Spouse's Name: Myrtle Mansfield
    Spouse's Age: 30
    Spouse's Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Race: White
    Spouse's Birthplace: Comanche, Texas
    Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1895
    Spouse's Father's Name: William F. Carter
    Spouse's Mother's Name: Virginia Kellam
    Reference Id: Pg.119 Cert.#9856
    Gs Film Number: 1943761
    Digital Folder Number: 4351488
    Image Number: 707

    Yet, Roy does not divorce (or Emma divorces Roy) much later in time in the
    following record:

    Colorado State Archives
    Record Type: Court Case
    Archive Location: GR240
    Name: Childers, Roy H
    County: Larimer
    Year: 1935
    Other Party: Childers, Emma G
    Case Number: 8231
    Instrument Type: Divorce
    http://accipiter.state.co.us/archive/publicrecordselect.do#
    Here are the children of Roy and Emma living with their maternal grandparents:
    1920 United States Federal Census
    Name: Barbara L Childers [Barbara S Childers]
    Age: 1 [1 9/12]
    Birth Year: abt 1919 [abt 1918]
    Birthplace: Colorado
    Home in 1920: Fort Collins Ward 2, Larimer, Colorado
    Race: White
    Gender: Female
    Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter
    Marital Status: Single
    Father's Birthplace: Colorado
    Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
    Household Members: Name Age
    John W Howe 62 Mar 1851 Illinois
    Irene S Howe 58 May 1862 Missouri
    Barbara L Childers 1 [1 9/12]

    1930 United States Federal Census
    Name: Barbara I Childres [Note: her grandmother has the given name of Irene]
    TLC
    Gender: Female
    Birth Year: abt 1918
    Birthplace: Colorado
    Race: White
    Home in 1930: Fort Collins, Larimer, Colorado
    Marital Status: Single
    Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter
    Father's Birthplace: Colorado
    Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
    Household Members: Name Age
    John W Howe 71 Odd job day laborer
    Irena S Howe 68
    Barbara I Childres 12
    Pat W Childres 7
    Note: enumerated January 5th. Barbara was born about April 1918

    1930 United States Federal Census
    Name: Pat W Childres
    Gender: Male
    Birth Year: abt 1923
    Birthplace: Colorado
    Race: White
    Home in 1930: Fort Collins, Larimer, Colorado
    Marital Status: Single
    Relation to Head of House: Grandson
    Father's Birthplace: Colorado
    Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
    Household Members: Name Age
    John W Howe 71 Odd job day laborer
    Irena S Howe 68
    Barbara I Childres 12
    Pat W Childres 7

    1940 United States Federal Census
    Name: Pat W Childers
    Age: 17
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1923
    Gender: Male
    Race: White
    Birthplace: Colorado
    Marital Status: Single
    Relation to Head of House: Boarder
    Home in 1940: Lone Oak, Bates, Missouri
    Inferred Residence in 1935: Nevada, Barton, Missouri
    Residence in 1935: Nevada, Barton, Missouri
    Resident on farm in 1935: Yes
    Sheet Number: 3B
    Occupation: Laborer
    Industry: On Farm
    Attended School or College: No
    Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
    Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 60
    Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
    Weeks Worked in 1939: 45
    Income: 250
    Income Other Sources: No
    Household Members: Name Age
    Genty A Howe 43
    Irence G Howe 79
    Pat W Childers 17

    So, the maternal grandparents apparently had enough of Colorado then moved back
    to Missouri where they were married, and had some children living there.

    Note: Neither I nor the software found a marriage record for Patrick in the
    Missouri Marriage Database. TLC February 28, 2013

    Missouri Death Certificates, 1910 - 1962
    Patrick W. Childers April _, 1946 Jackson Kansas City 13075
    Birth: May 3, 1922
    Death: April 18, 1946 in General Hospital
    Marital status: Divorced
    Father: Roy Childers born Colorado
    Mother: Emma Howe born Missouri
    Informant: Coroner's Office in Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri
    Cause of death: third degree burns over entire body in an accident on April 17,
    1946 in Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri
    Injury occured: In or about the home
    Residenc: 416 West 11th Street
    Burial or cremation: Removed April 20, 1946 to Wadsworth, Leavenworth, Kansas
    http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives

    Patrick Wesley Childers
    Birth: unknown
    Death: Apr. 18, 1946
    Burial: Leavenworth National Cemetery, Leavenworth, Leavenworth, Kansas
    Plot: 39, 8, 26
    Imported from: US Veteran's Affairs
    Record added: Feb 25, 2000
    Find A Grave Memorial# 487390

    Patrick Wesley Childers
    Birth: 3 May 1922
    Death: 18 April 1946
    Inscripton: U. S. Navy
    Burial Place: Leavenworth National Cemetery, Leavenworth, Kansas
    Contributor: StefEickhoff (December 23, 2011)
    http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/PatrickWesleyChilders/543688

    I believe the following is our Roy Henry Childers, though the birth year given
    in his death certificate is one year off from his WWI Draft Registration
    birthdate.

    1930 United States Federal Census
    Name: Roy H Childers
    Home in 1930: Houston, Harris, Texas
    Age: 37
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
    Birthplace: Montana
    Relation to Head of House: Head
    Spouse's Name: Myrtle L
    Race: White
    Household Members: Name Age
    Roy H Childres 37 [Note: he claims he was 32 years of age at first marriage]
    Myrtle L Childres 35 [Note: she claims that she was 30 years of age at first
    marriage]
    George L Luquett 29 Roomer
    John Ryan 60 Roomer
    Annie L Heights 34 Servant
    A Jades Brandberg 23 Servant
    Henry Schenider 57 Roomer
    Cecilia M Hubachek 35 Roomer
    Note: on April 7th on Leland Avenue, for $25 per month Roy is renting space in
    a house owned by landlord Mamie Sears (appears to be no relation), he is 37
    years of age, age 32 at first marriage, born Montana with father born Northern
    Ireland and mother born Nebraska, he is a Mechanic for an Auto Company, not a
    veteran. Wife is Myrtle L., age 35, and 30 years of age at first marriage, she
    and both parents born Texas, she is a Beauty Operator in a Beauty Shop. No
    children.
    Note: There are 6 other roomers in this house. Did Roy meet Myrtle through his
    sister Edith, who also was a beauty operator.

    Texas Death Index, 1903-2000
    Name: Roy Childers
    Death Date: 8 Jun 1933
    Death County: Harris
    Certificate: 28038

    Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976
    Name: Roy Childers
    Event Date: 08 Jun 1933
    Event Place: Houston, Harris, Texas
    Gender: Male
    Race (Original): White
    Age (Formatted): 39 Years 5 Months 26 Days
    Birth Year (Estimated):
    Birth Date: 13 Dec 1893
    Birthplace: Montana
    Marital Status: Married
    Spouse's Name: Edna Childers
    Father's Name:
    Father's Birthplace:
    Mother's Name:
    Mother's Birthplace:
    Occupation: Rouaton Light & Power Co
    Residence Place:
    Cemetery (Original): Woodlawn
    Burial Place:
    Burial Date: 12 Jun 1933
    Informant's Name (Original):
    Gs Film Number: 2115548
    Digital Folder Number: 4163871
    Image Number: 1668
    Reference Id: Cn 28038

    Woodlawn Cemetery
    1101 Antoine Drive
    Houston, Harris, Texas
    Postal Code: 77055-6919
    Phone: (713) 682-3663

    The following pertains to the sister of Roy Henry Childers, Rachel D. Childers.
    I still cannot find the death record for Rachel D. Copeland, her second
    husband.

    Colorado State Archives
    Record Type: Marriage License
    Archive Location:
    Name: Childers, Rachel
    Year: 1918 Month: Dec Day: 24
    Spouse: Peterson, Clarence T.

    Colorado State Archives
    Record Type: Court Case
    Archive Location: GR250
    Name: Peterson, Rachel D
    County: Larimer
    Year: 1933 Month: Day:
    Other Party: Peterson, Clarence T
    Instrument Type: Divorce
    Court: Dist.

    Colorado State Archives
    Record Type: Marriage License
    Archive Location:
    Name: Copeland, Elmer W.
    Year: 1934 Month: Nov Day: 8
    Spouse: Peterson, Rae M.
    I made lots of progress on lots of families the last couple weeks but I thought
    Virginia might enjoy the new information above.

    I sent the same information to the new and related Childers researcher in
    Larimer County, Colorado. I hope he can find a couple of things for us. For
    instance, what happened to Barbara Childers? Maybe the new researcher's
    Colorado relatives have some information about her, or maybe she went back to
    Missouri with her grandparents after 1930 and married there.

    The maternal grandparents of Barbara Childers were:

    John Wesley Howe
    Find A Grave Memorial# 102384378
    Irene Susan Vincent
    Find A Grave Memorial# 95130171

    Tom

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  • Name: Page 1
  • Birth: MAY 1862 in or May 1861, Bates, MO, born MO
  • Residence: 1900 ED 10 Lone Oak Township, Bates, Missouri, United States
  • Residence: 1930 Fort Collins, Larimer, Colorado
  • Death: AFT MAR 1940 in US census of, Bates, MO
  • Ancestral File #: LZJ9-PZS



    Father: Thomas Leroy VINCENT b: 11 OCT 1811 in Rock Hill (St. Louis Co.) Missouri
    Mother: Elizabeth PEARMAN b: 22 NOV 1820 in St Louis, St Louis, Missouri

    Marriage 1 John Wesley L HOWE b: 14 MAR 1856 in Hickory, Missouri, United States
    • Married: 23 JAN 1879 in Polk, Missouri, USA
    Children
    1. Has Children Emma G A HOWE b: 8 MAY 1897 in , , MO, of Bates Co 1900

    Sources:
    1. Abbrev: GEDCOM file imported on 25 January 2015
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