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  • ID: I1034
  • Name: Marie Iowa\Aioe_Tribe Wi-hmunke-wikan LAGUIVOISE
  • Given Name: Marie Iowa\Aioe_Tribe Wi-hmunke-wikan
  • Surname: Laguivoise
  • Sex: F
  • _UID: AA986271649348208C37DD8432D06852548F
  • _FSFTID: LZVN-MN3
  • Change Date: 30 JUL 2015
  • Note:
    !SOURCES:
    database mnunn at http://wc.rootsweb.com version of april 2004;

    !1998 OCTA CONVENTION in pendleton Oregon, field trip to Whitmans: From pat
    fletcher I gathered that the person in my book called "Baptiste
    Doris born ca 1815" is probably the same person she called something
    more like Baptiste Dorian, who was with his mother and brother in
    (present-day vicinity of) Milton- Freewater OR in 1811 and was then
    either aged 2 or 4 (his brother was the other age) and the son of Marie
    and Pierre Dorian. in the 1811 incident Marie and her kids were trying to
    escape an Indian attack, apparently Marie was of some other tribe herself.
    apparently Pierre was not around at the time. Apparently Marie was quite
    resourceful and holed up in the hills with her kids for a couple months
    and successfully evaded the problem.;

    !-
    !Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest, compiled by Munnick&Munnick
    in the volume on St Ann, Walla Walla and Frenchtown,
    on page 1 of the first St Ann parish register, Dorian, David bapt.
    BUT THIS IS THE ONLY APPEARNACE OF THE DORIAN SURNAME IN THE INDEXES OF THE
    WALLA WALLA AREA CATHOLIC PARISH VITAL RECORDS! And that event was in Wyoming
    and perhaps that Dorian didn't reside in Frenchtown WA, except to visit
    Madam Marie Dorian (who had a different married surname by then).
    So perhaps the Dorian surname is on the cemetery spire mostly from Mrs. Marie
    Dorian's long and valued association with Frenchtown WA area?;

    !2004 OCTA convention in Vancouver WA: some person told me names of 2nd and
    third wives of Marie.
    APPARENTLY THE PERSON WAS JANE KIRKPATRICK
    see her "tender ties" series of 3 books on marie dorion
    at www.jkbooks.com ;
    JEAN KIRKPATRICK FOLLOW UP MESSAGE aUG 2004:
    You will perhaps forward this to where it is needed but yes, Marie married Jean
    Baptiste Toupin, a French Canadian. The documentation is from Harriet Munnick's
    work translating the Catholic Priest records in the Northwest. There are 7
    volumes. In 1841, their marriage was legitimized as were the births of her
    children with Jean Baptiste Toupin and the birth of Marguerite Venier, daughter
    of her second husband, and Jean Baptiste Dorion, son of Pierre Dorion. Neither
    Paul nor John (a son recently identified via the First Peoples of Canada,
    descendants in Saskatchewan) were legitimized. Perhaps she believed both of
    them to be deceased.
    Jean Toupin also worked for Hudson's Bay, was fired once then rehired.
    He's mentioned in John Work's field notes of 1831-32 trapping expedition into
    Southern Oregon. He also testified at the trial of the Cayuse accused of
    killing the Whitmans. One of the priests refers to "our interpreter" who
    carried messages to the hostages and also linked him with Peter Skene Ogden who
    negotiated for the release of the hostages. Jean Toupin spent some time with
    Ogden earlier (1827) so would have known him. In my fictional account, I made
    that "interpreter" Jean Toupin as he was listed as an interpreter by Hudson's
    Bay.
    Jean Toupin, the man Marie married last, moved with her to French Prairie
    near Salem, OR. In the Catholic records, Marie is there listed as being the
    god-mother to two children whose parentage was not known. Several
    grandchildren are baptized there. Marie likely met Jean Toupin as he is listed
    by George Gay as one of the camp boys who came with Wilson Price Hunt on the
    overland expedition funded by Astor. Documentation in a family letter
    reprinted in Men of Champoeg.
    A descendant of Paul, Pat Smith who lives in Utah said her mother, age 91,
    while being read Hold Tight the Thread, remembered the meaning of Marie's
    Indian name. It was "Walks Far Woman" And that she surely did.
    I hope that helps. Sounds like good work going on in the genealogy world!
    Sincerely,
    Jane Kirkpatrick, Award-winning author
    www.jkbooks.com ;
  • _TMPLT: 1
  • Birth: ABT 1788 in born 1786-1789, Scott, IL, Iowa Tribe
  • Death: 6 SEP 1850 in St. Louis Parish, Terr. Oregon
  • Title: Walks Far Woman



    Father: Aioe Iowa\Aioe_Tribe LAGUIVOISE b: ABT 1750 in maybe, , Quebec, of Scott Co IL
    Mother: Native_American IOWA b: ABT 1760 in probably of, , IL, IA

    Marriage 1 Pierre Dorian son_of_Pierre DORION b: 1782 in Yankton Village,,Burleigh,North Dakota
      Children
      1. Has Children Paul DORION b: 1806 in , , Missouri, Territory
      2. Has Children Jean Baptiste John DORION b: 1809 in , , Missouri, Territory c: 1845 in St. Louis Church, Saint Louis, Saint Louis, Missouri
      3. Has No Children Margaret DORION b: ABT 1811 in Idaho, Oregon Country, United States

      Marriage 2 Joseph Vernier VENIER b: ABT 1785 in maybe, , Quebec, of FtOkanagan WA
      • Married: ABT 1814 in Fort Okanogan, Washington Territory, United States
      Children
      1. Has No Children Marguerite Margaret VENIER b: ABT 1816 in maybe, Okanagan, WA c: 1841 in Catholic Records, Marion, OR
      2. Has No Children John not_same_as_Jean Baptiste_Dorian! VENIER b: ABT 1820 in probably, , Oregon, Territory
      3. Has No Children Marguerite Margaret VAGNIER b: ABT 1816 in maybe, Okanagan, WA c: 1841 in Catholic Records, Marion, OR
      4. Has No Children John not_same_as_Jean Baptiste_Dorian! VAGNIER b: ABT 1820 in probably, , Oregon, Territory

      Marriage 3 Jean Baptiste John TOUPIN b: ABT 1789 in Mackinonge,,, Canada
      • Married: 1841 in Catholic confirm, Marion, Oregon, md bef 1841
      • Married: 19 JUL 1841 in St. Pauls Mission, Terr. Oregon
      Children
      1. Has No Children Francois TAUPIN b: 1817 in Of,Stella Maris Mission,Pacific,Washington
      2. Has No Children Marriane Mariane TOUPIN b: ABT 1822 in probably either, , OR, WA

      Marriage 4 Joseph Vernier VAGNIER b: ABT 1785 in maybe, , Quebec, of FtOkanagan WA
      • Married: ABT 1814 in probably either, , OR, WA

      Sources:
      1. Abbrev: GEDCOM file imported on 30 January 2015
        Title: GEDCOM file submitted by Warren Forsythe (from myself downloaded after my computer died), http://wc.rootsweb.com/~whitman. Imported on 30 January 2015.y computer died), http://wc.rootsweb.com/~whitman. Imported on 30 January 2015.ied).
        Name: Footnotey computer died), http://wc.rootsweb.com/~whitman. Imported on 30 January 2015.
        Name: ShortFootnotey computer died), http://wc.rootsweb.com/~whitman. Imported on 30 January 2015.
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