Name: Marie Iowa\Aioe_Tribe Wi-hmunke-wikan LAGUIVOISE
Given Name: Marie Iowa\Aioe_Tribe Wi-hmunke-wikan
Change Date: 30 JUL 2015
Birth: ABT 1788 in born 1786-1789, Scott, IL, Iowa Tribe
Death: 6 SEP 1850 in St. Louis Parish, Terr. Oregon
Title: Walks Far Woman
database mnunn at http://wc.rootsweb.com version of april 2004;
!1998 OCTA CONVENTION in pendleton Oregon, field trip to Whitmans: From pat
fletcher I gathered that the person in my book called "Baptiste
Doris born ca 1815" is probably the same person she called something
more like Baptiste Dorian, who was with his mother and brother in
(present-day vicinity of) Milton- Freewater OR in 1811 and was then
either aged 2 or 4 (his brother was the other age) and the son of Marie
and Pierre Dorian. in the 1811 incident Marie and her kids were trying to
escape an Indian attack, apparently Marie was of some other tribe herself.
apparently Pierre was not around at the time. Apparently Marie was quite
resourceful and holed up in the hills with her kids for a couple months
and successfully evaded the problem.;
!Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest, compiled by Munnick&Munnick
in the volume on St Ann, Walla Walla and Frenchtown,
on page 1 of the first St Ann parish register, Dorian, David bapt.
BUT THIS IS THE ONLY APPEARNACE OF THE DORIAN SURNAME IN THE INDEXES OF THE
WALLA WALLA AREA CATHOLIC PARISH VITAL RECORDS! And that event was in Wyoming
and perhaps that Dorian didn't reside in Frenchtown WA, except to visit
Madam Marie Dorian (who had a different married surname by then).
So perhaps the Dorian surname is on the cemetery spire mostly from Mrs. Marie
Dorian's long and valued association with Frenchtown WA area?;
!2004 OCTA convention in Vancouver WA: some person told me names of 2nd and
third wives of Marie.
APPARENTLY THE PERSON WAS JANE KIRKPATRICK
see her "tender ties" series of 3 books on marie dorion
at www.jkbooks.com ;
JEAN KIRKPATRICK FOLLOW UP MESSAGE aUG 2004:
You will perhaps forward this to where it is needed but yes, Marie married Jean
Baptiste Toupin, a French Canadian. The documentation is from Harriet Munnick's
work translating the Catholic Priest records in the Northwest. There are 7
volumes. In 1841, their marriage was legitimized as were the births of her
children with Jean Baptiste Toupin and the birth of Marguerite Venier, daughter
of her second husband, and Jean Baptiste Dorion, son of Pierre Dorion. Neither
Paul nor John (a son recently identified via the First Peoples of Canada,
descendants in Saskatchewan) were legitimized. Perhaps she believed both of
them to be deceased.
Jean Toupin also worked for Hudson's Bay, was fired once then rehired.
He's mentioned in John Work's field notes of 1831-32 trapping expedition into
Southern Oregon. He also testified at the trial of the Cayuse accused of
killing the Whitmans. One of the priests refers to "our interpreter" who
carried messages to the hostages and also linked him with Peter Skene Ogden who
negotiated for the release of the hostages. Jean Toupin spent some time with
Ogden earlier (1827) so would have known him. In my fictional account, I made
that "interpreter" Jean Toupin as he was listed as an interpreter by Hudson's
Jean Toupin, the man Marie married last, moved with her to French Prairie
near Salem, OR. In the Catholic records, Marie is there listed as being the
god-mother to two children whose parentage was not known. Several
grandchildren are baptized there. Marie likely met Jean Toupin as he is listed
by George Gay as one of the camp boys who came with Wilson Price Hunt on the
overland expedition funded by Astor. Documentation in a family letter
reprinted in Men of Champoeg.
A descendant of Paul, Pat Smith who lives in Utah said her mother, age 91,
while being read Hold Tight the Thread, remembered the meaning of Marie's
Indian name. It was "Walks Far Woman" And that she surely did.
I hope that helps. Sounds like good work going on in the genealogy world!
Jane Kirkpatrick, Award-winning author
Father: Aioe Iowa\Aioe_Tribe LAGUIVOISE b: ABT 1750 in maybe, , Quebec, of Scott Co IL
Mother: Native_American IOWA b: ABT 1760 in probably of, , IL, IA
Pierre Dorian son_of_Pierre DORION b: 1782 in Yankton Village,,Burleigh,North Dakota
- Paul DORION b: 1806 in , , Missouri, Territory
- Jean Baptiste John DORION b: 1809 in , , Missouri, Territory c: 1845 in St. Louis Church, Saint Louis, Saint Louis, Missouri
- Margaret DORION b: ABT 1811 in Idaho, Oregon Country, United States
Joseph Vernier VENIER b: ABT 1785 in maybe, , Quebec, of FtOkanagan WA
in Fort Okanogan, Washington Territory, United States
- Marguerite Margaret VENIER b: ABT 1816 in maybe, Okanagan, WA c: 1841 in Catholic Records, Marion, OR
- John not_same_as_Jean Baptiste_Dorian! VENIER b: ABT 1820 in probably, , Oregon, Territory
- Marguerite Margaret VAGNIER b: ABT 1816 in maybe, Okanagan, WA c: 1841 in Catholic Records, Marion, OR
- John not_same_as_Jean Baptiste_Dorian! VAGNIER b: ABT 1820 in probably, , Oregon, Territory
Jean Baptiste John TOUPIN b: ABT 1789 in Mackinonge,,, Canada
in Catholic confirm, Marion, Oregon, md bef 1841
19 JUL 1841
in St. Pauls Mission, Terr. Oregon
- Francois TAUPIN b: 1817 in Of,Stella Maris Mission,Pacific,Washington
- Marriane Mariane TOUPIN b: ABT 1822 in probably either, , OR, WA
Joseph Vernier VAGNIER b: ABT 1785 in maybe, , Quebec, of FtOkanagan WA
in probably either, , OR, WA
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