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Household: Name RelationMarital StatusGenderRaceAgeBirthplaceOccupationFather's BirthplaceMother's Birthplace Leonard SUTTON Self M Male W 41 IN Farming --- --- Mary M. SUTTON Wife M Female W 25 PA Keeping House --- --- J. George SUTTON Son S Male W 18 IL Farm Laborer IN IN Jefferson SUTTON Son S Male W 16 IL At School IN IN Leonard SUTTON Son S Male W 15 IL At School IN IN Albert SUTTON Son S Male W 13 IL At School IN IN Rebecca SUTTON Dau S Female W 10 AR At School IN IN John SUTTON Son S Male W 6 AR At School IN IN Sylvester SUTTON Son S Male W 1 IL IN PA Oliver K. SUTTON Son S Male W 4M KS IN PA Source Information: Census PlaceCedar, Wilson, Kansas Family History Library Film 1254399 NA Film Number T9-0399 Page Number 3A ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The following are the authors (Carol Ruth Sutton Nagy Kunz or crk) thoughts and memories of grandfather John U. Sutton.
I remember him as a tall man, I was 18 when he died and my memories at this point are vague in trying to remember his funeral, I did not attend. I was working in downtown Detroit at Cooley Appliance Service, 21 Henry Street and most probably could not take the time off to attend.
We pretty much visited he and grandma at least once a summer up north and I remember going up not too long before he died with sister Virginia and her sons, Joey, David and Dennis the twins and our sister Gloria and we have pictures where we are fishing and walking down the road there. We may have went to visit for one last time before he died, I do not remember seeing him ill however.
I have a picture standing beside grandpa and he's squeezing me to him and I am giggleing, what a guy he was.
He would take the 4 youngest of us, Gloria, Marge, me Carol and Glenn out for walks in the woods and pretend to get us lost, worried us to death, he'd go on and on about being lost looking up thru the tall pines, shading his eyes from bursts of sunshine glimmering thru the trees and say "sure 'nuff the sun would be going down soon and whatever would we do if we couldn't find our way out?" All the time we were walking he was marking nearby trees so we actually wouldn't get lost and I can just hear Glen and I whimpering away about it and him loving it, oh, he was such a tease.
He showed us how to cut pieces out of Birch trees and try to make little canoe's from them, I think I flunked that lesson tho.
The best times were when we would go with him to the barn to watch him milk the cows and on the path to the barn trying to dodge the cow pucky and he'd say, "Just put your feet in there, it'll warm 'em up." He would just wait for us kids to squeel.
When we got to the barn he'd always let us try to milk the cows, I sure never got the hang of it but love having tried at least. He was so patient, you could feel the love he had for us. Then of coarse there were the cats who always followed along with us to the barn and want their share of the milk grandpa would spray at them straight from the cow.....................my, I thought, how clever you are grandpa.
There were the times also when he saw to it that we each got to get up on one of his horses Oh my, that was scarry but you always got to go back to school in the fall and tell everyone you "rode on a horse at your granddad's farm" how cool was that I ask you? Oh, his dog Shep, (one of many named that I'm supposing) how he loved him, I also remember Chum, but as I recall they all seemed to look alike, probably Border Collies or a breed similar and they helped round up the cows, how amazing I thought.
After grandma Minnie died, he came to stay at our house a couple of times, sometime in the late 40's I would guess and our dad was still working so mom would have to be with him alone as all the kids were either working or still going to school during the day and it just gave mom fits. She was just so afraid that he would wander off and not find his way back. I truly believe she thought he had dementia, just assumed all old folks couldn't remember and she worried the whole time he was there visiting us. I don't think mom ever really got to know him but she did like him. I am sure now as I sit here writing about him that he probably did walk quite a ways from our home there on Liddesdale in Detroit and go back to the old "Oakwood" neighborhood and probably go to the old Salt Mines there on Sander's Street where he had worked and had his eye put out. I wonder if he ever met anyone he had known years before? I don't knew the circumstances of the eye accident but I am sure that is one reason my dad Oral never worked in those mines. Mother Hilda had a brother killed in those mines and I think they all knew the danger of working there after a time./crk
MY TIMELINE FOR JOHN U. SUTTON AND FAMILY
John Sutton was born on September 16, 1873 in Goldengrove, Missouri (this info from the Sutton's in Washington State) (See his obit it states he was born in Arkansas.) In 1877 his family went to Petersburg, Illinois. In 1879 they moved to Altoona, Kansas. Went to Fayetteville, Arkansas in 1885.
In the winter of 1889 they stopped off in Oklahoma Territory and this is where John and his 1/2 brother Albert "Bert" took off from their folks wagon to be on their own, John was just 16. Three years later, in 1893 he married Minnie McHone in Hutchinson, Reno County, Kansas. On June 21, 1894 a son Alfred was born and died the same day. (See Minnie's notes with her FTM file herein regarding a possible son born to her in 1888 and also named Alfred. I have a copy of a death certificate for this child whose parents went un-named but both she and at least her father Alfred both lived at the address given on this death certicate of 636 Wabash, in Kansas so the probable deduction is that she had this son out of wedlock and he lived only 6 months.) On June 3, 1895 son Oral was born in Ellsworth, Ellsworth County, Kansas and his sister Bertha was probably born there also in 1897. (Note: Carol, send for Bertha's death certificate.)
Lulu Belle was born in Reno County, Kansas in 1899, in 1901a child Minnie Gertrude was born Jan. 4, and died Jan 5th 1901, place unknown and on November 21, 1901 Nellie was born in Rusk, Oklahoma and 1904 Charles Sutton was born there also. In 1906 Mildred was born in Kingman, Kansas and this is the place his father Leonard visited John & Minnie only because the rest of the Leonard Sutton family had already moved on to Arkansas. (See memoirs of Sylvester Sutton, brother of John Sutton as sorce info herein.)
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1908
1909: A son Chester was born in August, lived til January 5, 1910, place unknown.
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1913: They finally moved to Michigan by 1913 where Richard their last child was born and lived their last days there in West Branch, Michigan.
1914: Bertha & Ed Brooks married Dec 19, 1914
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1916: They lived on Heidt Street in the old Oakwood, MI (Detroit) area (all the Oral Sutton kids attended Hunter School on Colonial Street just 2 streets from Heidt Street at one time or other I believe) Oral & Hilda married that year and also lived on this Street.
1917: Still on Heidt, Oral's daughter Gwendolyn (Hilda) Sutton born this year in November.
1918:
1919: Believe Belle Sutton & ??? Short were married this year
1920: Found living in Ecorse Twp., Michigan (Melvindale? near Oakwood and Allen Rds.?) and daughter Bertha & Ed, son Raymond and Dtr. Pearl living next door. This also is where dtr. Belle Sutton Short is found living as married but no husband is named by name. Would Heidt Street have been considered Ecorse Twp.,?
1921: Nellie Sutton & Harold Bayn were married December 5, 1921, where? Did Belle marry Pat Still this year also?
1922: See a Picture Post Card of Nellie and I think Minnie sent to me by cousin Julie Bayn Gibbs in 2003 which is mailed from probably Melvindale around this time period also. According to Minnie McHone, his wife's obit this may be the year they moved to the West Branch area, most probably to Prescott, Michigan.
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1930: Found living on Francis Street, Melvindale Village, Wayne Co., Michigan with Richard and Charlie in the 1930 Census. He is working in the Salt Mines, Belle and William (Pat) Still live next door and Uncle Pat is working maintenance in an Ice Plant. Oral and Hilda are found living in Inkster on Norfolk Street with Hilda (Gwen), Virginia, Melvin, Jerry & Dick, Census dated April 7, 1930. Oral is a sprayer at a Wheel Company which would have Kelsey Hayes Wheel. Gloria Sutton dtr. of Oral & Hilda Sutton born October 13, 1930 in Inkster this year. Aunt Mildred and family are found living in Mills Twp., Ogema County on the 1930 Census, Harold and Nellie are found living in Calhoun Co., Albion Twp. on this Census with Virginia, Wilma and Harold Jr.
1931: Picture of Grandma Minnie Sutton with Gloria Sutton (abt.1 year old?) looks like they lived on Liddesdale our family did not move to Liddesdale until 1939 so it had to have been their home there on Liddesdale and may have been how my dad Sutton found our house there to buy. Did John and Minnie leave up north and move back to this area in Detroit?
1932: Marge Sutton born in Inkster.
1933:
1934: Uncle Richard Sutton and Aunt Mary were married in Dearborn, probably lived in Melvindale.
1935: Carol Sutton born on Toronto Street off Fort St., Detroit. Hilda (Gwen) Sutton married also in June to Kenneth Richardson
1936: Glen Sutton born in March at 255 Beechwood,River Rouge, Michigan
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1939: Prescott as addressed to John and Minnie Sutton on a Postcard from New York when "Virgie" Virginia (Sutton) Hage went to the World's Fair.
1940: In July 1940 they lived in Prescott, Ogemaw Co., Michigan as Minnie signed an affidavit of Birth for sons Oral and Charlie so they could get a delayed registration of their Birth Certificate's Oral's from Ellsworth Co., Kansas and Charlie's from Sedgwick Co., Kansas. I have a copy of Charles Sutton from his daughter Betty Sutton Knish.
1941:
1942: Virginia Belle Sutton (b: 9/1/22) & Danny married 3/20/42 in Jackson
1943: Wilma Sutton (b: 1/19/24) & Russell Raymer married April 1, 1943, Battle Creek
1944: Harold Bayn (b: 5/2/26) & Vicky Stubin married 10/28/44.
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1947: His wife Minnie Sutton died December 15, 1947 in West Branch, Ogemaw Co., MI, daughter Bertha Brooks died May 2, 1947 also.
1948: West Branch, Michigan
1949: WestBranch, Michigan
1950: West Branch, Michigan
1951: West Branch, Michigan
1952: West Branch, Michigan
1953: John died August 25, 1953 in West Branch, Ogemaw Co., Michigan. His obit reads: (From the Ogemaw County Herald: Aug. 27, 1953,CONDUCT RITES FOR JOHN SUTTON AT STEUERNOL'S................ Funeral services for John U. Sutton 79 year old resident of West Branch who passed away at Tolfree Memorial Hospital Tuesday evening, August 27 with burial in the Brookside Cemetery.
John U. Sutton, the son of Leonard and Margaret Sutton was born September 16, 1873 in Arkansas. He was married in Hutchinson, Kansas and has resided in West Branch for the past 18 years (see wife Minnie's obit in 1947 where it states she had resided in West Branch for the last 25 years so that would make John there since 1922 also or 31 years and this info was given by his daughter Belle Sutton Still who lived there also.)
He is survived by three sons, Oral of Detroit, Charles of Dearborn and Richard of Allen Park and three daughters, Mrs Belle Still and Mrs Mildred Dobbler of West Branch and Mrs Nellie Bayn of Battle Creek and 37 grandchildren.
The Rev. C.S. Larsen officiated at the services.
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