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Note: Colonial Census - Cumberland Co. 02-02
No Will in Cumberland Co. for Thomas Guttery
Thomas Guthrey on 1782 Halifax tax list 07-00
Compendium of American Genealogy - First Families - p. 433
6 - Thos. Guthery (prob. 1713-1790) from King William Co., VA to Cumberland Co. ante 1750 m. Sarah
Will of Sarah Guttrey Cumberland Co. 9/30/1771 WB 2, p. 259 Probate: 5/25 /1772
Sons: Bernard Guttrey
William Coleman Guttrey Dau: Patty Guthry
Orania Coleman Susanna Lee Grissel Meredith Philadelphia Elliot (m. Richard Elliott 4/19/1768 Cumb. Co.) Grandson: Henry Guttrey, son of Bernard
Grandau: Lucy Elliott, daughter of Philadelphia
Elizabeth Elliott, daughter of Philadelphia Executors: Bernard and William Guthry
Will of Daniel Coleman - Cumberland Co. 8/29/1763 WB 2, p. 4 8/29/1763 Pr ob: 1/22/1770
Wife: Patience Coleman
Dau: Ann Glen (m. Nehemiah Glen)
Lucy Glen (m. Nathan Glen) Mary Sims (m. Mathew Sims) Grandson: William Coleman, son of Thomas
Grandson: Gideon Edwards (got land in Halifax Cty)
All my nine children:
Thomas Coleman Daniel Coleman James Coleman Judith Turner (deceased) Sarah Guttery Ann Glen Grizzell Edwards Lucy Glen Mary Sims Executors: Daniel Coleman, Nathan Glen, William Coleman
Wit: Thos. Davenport, Jr.
William Davenport James Davenport Joseph Davenport Will of Thomas Guttery, King William Co., St. John's Parish (WHERE IS THIS WILL?)
To dau: Sarah Coleman To grandaughter: Sarah Guttery, daughter of son William 1768 Cumberland Co. tithables
Barnett Guthry Abner King Guthry Thomas Guthry 1784 Cumberland Co. tithables
Alexander Guthery 7-1-2
Henry Guthery 4-1-1
William Guthery 7-1-5
Bernard Guthery 10-1-0
Guthrie & Guttery and Allied families
Compiled by Mrs. John McQueen Guttery
Jasper, Alabama 1956
(Oklahoma Historical Society)
The tracing of the Guthries in Cumberland from records is complicated by the French De La
Gootries or (Gutrys) of the Huguenot settlement along the border between Cumberland and Powhatan counties.
The De La Gootries, according to good information, were descended from the Scotch Guthries,
who fled from the persecutions in Scotland and settled in the region of Bordeau, France. They migrated with other Huguenots to America. (Written by County Clerks as Gootrie, Guttery, and Guthrey)
The records show two early families apparently closely related. Those of Sarah (Guttery) and
Thomas (Guttery). The latter appears in the land records in 1750, while the first "Will" of the name is that of Sarah in 1771.
One tradition is that the Guthries came from Scotland, settled on the eastern shore of Virginia, and from there, their descendants (grandchildren) likely moved to Cumberland Co. Another tradition is that the Guthries came from Scotland and settled in Maryland, and descendants moved to Cumberland County, Va. This is possible, not creditable, as the first account.
It is said that there were three brothers who removed from the eastern part of VA to Cumberland County. Their names being Lawrence, Thomas, and William. Lawrence Guthrey is supposed to have been the husband of Sarah, whose maiden name was Coleman (see Coleman in Allied Families .) He is not found in the county records.
The "Will" of Sarah Guttery of the County of Cumberland in the Province of Virginia, mentions my beloved son Bernard Guttery , my beloved son William Coleman Guttery. (Perhaps he was the William Guthrie who married Elizabeth Stanard).
. . . It would appear Philadelphia Guthrey was single April 22, 1768; for forty five pounds she sells Sarah Guthrey a Negro boy named NEPTUNE. Probably Sarah Guttery the testator was at least sixty years of age at the time she made her will possibly older.
Bernard Guthrey above son of Sarah was a soldier in the Rev. War. He was a prominent citizen in Cumberland County; took an active part in public affairs. He was a tobacco grower; it is not know whom he married. His name is found in both the 1782 and 1784 lists of inhabitants of Cumberland County. His household in both being represented as ten whites. This would indicate eight children only one of these known, Henry, a Legatee in Sarah Guttrey's Will. Peyton Guthrey with whom Bernard Guthrey joined in a deed of trust to William Guthrey May 6, 1799 appears to have been a son.
Thomas Guttery of King William County, in Saint John's Parish, seems to have moved to Cumberland with several children. He was a party in a number of land records in the county. He married Patsy Bakesrvil le (Baskerville?). The Will of Thomas Guthrey of the Parish of Littleton Cumberland County. He mentions my son, Alexander Guthrey, daughter Susannah Moore, among other bequeaths an old large Bible. Daughter Elizabeth Morris, son Francis Guthrey, to son William Guthrey, land and plantation where I now live, son John Guthrey, daughter Sarah Coleman, to grandaughter, Sarah Guthrey, dau of son William, to grandson John Guthrey, son of son William. Robert Anderson, Samuel Anderson, Alexander Guthrey, executors. s/Oct. 6/1790. Thomas Guthrey in presence of Nicholus Hallam, Leonard Borham, Richard Bakersville, William Daniel, Joseph Hill, admitted to robate Sept. 22, 1800. (This family could go on and on). Please note how the names have been misspelled.
In a letter of Henry P. Guthrie to his daughter, he stated that his great grandfather Guthrie, the immigrant, had four sons. Their names are not given, but from the given names of the earliest Guthrie, the writer wou ld hazzard the following in order, John, Edward and Daniel as being the names of these sons. The oldest son according to the custom of the times received the chief portion of the father's estate, others received 60 acres each. Some information concerning one of the 60 ac tracts, is found in Call report, p. 7, which gives an account of suit for possession of this land.
It shows that a John Guthrie who died near the close of 1761, was possessed of this particular tract. With its improvements and that he had a brother, William, who had land in King and Queen County and of whom he was heir at law. John Guthrie left a will dated Oct. 17,1761 in which he mentions three sons: John, Richard and James. John received but a shilling from his father's estate.
It was the latter's intention that James his oldest son should receive the 60 acres, but as he was heir, of the testator to his brother Williams estate; he provided that James should not have both. He could take the choice between the two estates, the one not chosen by him was to go to the son Richard after the father's death. James entered in to possession of the 60 acres, and when his Uncle William died he took possession of his estate as heir at law.
James Guthrie died intestate Jan. 1776 but left a son James, his heir at law. Richard died possessed of the 60 acres, and left a will in which he bequeathed it to his daughter Elizabeth for her lifetime, afterwards to his son, Richard, or his heirs.
At this point James, the son of James Guthrie, brought suit in the District Court against Elizabeth and Richard Guthrie for possession of the 60 acres and obtained judgment. They in turn appealed to the Supreme Court, which reversed the decision of the District Court on the grounds that it was contrary to the first mentioned testator, and the 60 acres was restored to Elizabeth and Richard Guthrie.
Before proceeding with the oldest line of descendant, mention will here be made of Daniel Guthrie found in the early records of Virginia.
The Journal of Virginia Council shows that suit was brought by Thomas Pendleton against Daniel Guthrie and wife, Mary for having trafficked a nd dealt on a Sabbath Day in June 1713 without license, selling a Negro wo an called, Jenny. It appears the wife was charged with being the principal offender.
The flattering inducements offered by Lord Baltimore to the colonist led many Virginians to remove to Maryland. There was a Daniel Guthrie on the eastern shore of Maryland 1721, but its hardly probably that he was the Guthrie with whom we are now dealing. Another Daniel Guthrie was a soldier in the French and Indian war.
NOTE: John Lee in 1783, owned a slave Neptune. In 1838, Neptune is also listed in his Inventory
(This was sent to me by Larry J. Guthrie, Route 1 Box 505, Sulphur, OK 730 86 also on-line guthrie@@brightok.net)
6. From: Cumberland Co. Marriage Records 1749-1840 compiled by Kathari ne B. Elliott, South Hill, VA 1969
1. P. 60 - Beverly Guthrie to Sarah Colquitt MB 12/17/1793, daughter of John Colquitt Surety: James Colquitt Teste: William Colquitt
2. P. 58 - Bernard Guthrey to Rebecca Bird MB not dated but on back 7/2 1/1817 Surety: Harman Oliver
3. P. 58 - Nehemiah Glenn to Ann Coleman (prior to 8/29/1763) by Wi ll of Daniel Coleman, Cumberland Co. WB 2, p. 4
4. P. 58 - Nathan Glenn to Lucy Coleman 5/24/1756 MB, daughter of Dani el Coleman. Surety: Stephen Davenport
5. P. 58 - Nathan Glenn to Mary D. Fowler MB (not dated but on back 12/ 13/1819) Surety: Osborne L. Fowler
6. P. 35 - Henry Coleman, Jr. MB 11/11/1811 to Orana Coleman. Surety: Elliott Coleman
7. P. 35 - John S. Coleman MB 10/29/1822 to Sarah White. Surety: William Guthrey
8. P. 35 - Gulielmus Coleman MB not dated but listed on back 7/18 12 to Sarah White. Surety: William Guthrey
9. P. 48 - Richard Elliott to Philadelphia Guthrie MB 4/29/1768. Richard of Cumberland Co. (Douglas Register P. 19) and Will of Sarah Guthrey Cumberland Co. WB 2, p. 59
10. P. 117 - Matthew Sims to Mary Coleman (prior to 8/29/1763) by Will of Daniel Coleman
Others listed in this book but I didn't get page numbers:
James Apperson to SALLY GUTHRY 8/29/1805 Cons: James Epperson
JANE GUTHRY to Samuel Ayres 1/26/1814 Surety: Robert Caldwell, daughter of Henry GUTHRY
Jonas M. Anderson 2/7/1825 to SALLY C. GUTHRY. Surety: David Malloy Teste: William W. Meredith
William B. Langhorne makes affidavit Sally is of age Elijah Bowles to SALLY GUTHREY 8/9/1834 Surety: John Caldwell
Richard Elliott to Philadelphia GUTHRIE 4/29/1768. Richard of Cumberland Co. Douglas Reg. p. 19.
Will of Sarah Guthry William J. Furguson to REBECCA GUTHRY 2/18/1824 Surety: John Guthry
Virginia Genealogies #2, Volume IV, Shepard and Other Buckingham Familie s, p. 420 @@ Genealogy.com
Regarding Shepard:
Their children were: 3. Burwell m. Elizabeth GUTHRIE 4. Carroll m. Miss Smith-Brown, 6. Juliet m. Andrew Amonet, 7. Maria, m. Len Bosher of Henrico, 8. Magaria m. Fleming Casey, 9. William E. m. LAUZIANNE GUTHRIE.
Gulielmus COLEMAN of Cumberland m. Eleanor Turner of Maryland. .... LAUZIANNE GUTHRIE journeyed to Bedford about 1840 in a carriage to see the LEE and ARNOLD families living there. The daughter of Eleanor Turner, Elizabeth COLEMAN m. William GUTHRIE, son of William GUTHRIE Sr. and Miss Standard. (These Guthries are said to be Scotch, but the early forms of the name, GOOTRIE, GOOTRY, GUTTERY, and de la GOOTRIE, could incline one to be ieve them members of the Huguenot colony that settled in Powhatan in the late seventeenth century and thereafter. There was a Lt. BERNARD GUTTERY from Cumberland, brother to WILLIAM, Sr. I hear one of the famiy was named JULES and another Captain ALEXANDER of the Continental militia.)
The Rulon Lee submission to LDS gives John Lee's wife as Tabitha
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