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Note: 1900 4th Beat, Collier, Madison Co, AL ED 105 sheet 4B enum 8 Jun 1900 67 74 Ginn, James M, May 1859, age 41, married 20 yrs, AL AL AL farmer Caroline wife Apr 1863 age 37, 7 births 4 living AL TN AL Jennie (?) D, dau Nov 1880 age 19 single AL AL AL Murtle dau Feb 1884 age 16 single AL AL AL Andy son Jan 1888 age 12 AL AL AL Frank son Jan 1891 age 9 AL AL AL In a message dated 7/9/2004 11:09:17 PM Central Standard Time, bluelaker4@cox.net <mailto:bluelaker4@cox.net> writes:You may recall that Cynthia Ginn, daughter of James Minzy Ginn, married a Ruben Webster...so probably Ruben and Lonza are related, but I haven't found that connection yet, either. I was hoping Lonza was the child of Cynthia and Ruben, but in 1900 their oldest child is Willie L (Lonza?)...and his wife was Monalee or something unusual. It definitely is not shown as Myrtle in the 1910 and 1920 censuses, so doubtful. Myrtle was born Feb 1884, and Monalee was born abt 1888.Madison Co MarriagesWebster, Lonza - Ginn, Myrtle Vol. 29 p. 053 26 Dec 1903 I have been searching high and low for Myrtle Ginn (daughter of James Madison Ginn) who married Lonza Webster in 1903, in the censuses with absolutely NO luck! However, I have a far-fetched idea which has no basis in fact, just a wild idea I thought I'd run by you.Fact: James Minzy Ginn's dau Cynthia married a Ruben C. Webster who already had a son, Nathan Samuel born Dec. 1875 according to the 1900 census. Note where they lived..in Collier.1900 Collier Beat 4, Madison, AL ED 105 sheet 7A 13 Jun 1900 123 131 Webster, Ruben C, Jan 1854 age 46, md 16 yrs, AL AL AL farmer Sintha A wie Mar 1868 age 32 md 16 yrs, 6 births 4 living AL AL AL NAthan S son Dec 1875 24 single, AL AL AL farm laborer (son of Ruben and his first wife) Willie T son Sep 1886 age 13 AL AL AL farm laborer George N son Jun 1894 age 5 AL AL AL Mattie P dau Oct 1895 age 4 AL AL AL Leona (?) dau Jul 1898 age 1 AL AL AL also living in Collier is Cynthia Ginn Webster's half brother, James Madison Ginn: 1900 4th Beat, Collier, Madison Co, AL ED 105 sheet 4B enum 8 Jun 1900 67 74 Ginn, James M, May 1859, age 41, married 20 yrs, AL AL AL farmer Caroline wife Apr 1863 age 37, 7 births 4 living AL TN AL Jennie (?) D, dau Nov 1880 age 19 single AL AL AL Murtle dau Feb 1884 age 16 single AL AL AL Andy son Jan 1888 age 12 AL AL AL Frank son Jan 1891 age 9 AL AL AL Lonza Webster married Myrtle D. Ginn and then apparently disappeared off the face of the earth. In 1910 Myrtle would have been about 26. I am just wondering if "Lonza" could somehow be Nathan Samuel Webster? He's the right age for Myrtle. But where is Myrtle? I have found this for 1910 which indicates that Nathan Samuel married in 1903, which is the correct year, but his wife has the wrong name: 1910 Colliers, Madison, AL ED 124 sheet 5B 2 May 1910 82 82 Webster, Sam 34 first marriage, md 7 yrs, AL AL AL farmer Laura wife 30 first marriage, md 7 yrs 4 b 3 liv AL AL AL farm laborer Alvie son 6 AL AL AL Annie dau 4 AL AL AL Rubie dau 2 AL AL AL In 1920 and 1930 the family looks like this: 1920 Colliers, Madison, AL ED 128 sheet 8A 15/16 Jan 1920 145 151 Webster, Samuel N 44 AL AL AL farmer Lora E wife 40 AL AL AL farm laborer Alva J son 15 AL AL AL farm laborer Annie L dau 14 AL AL AL farm laborer Ruby E dau 12 AL AL AL Gracie M dau 9 AL AL AL Susie L dau 7 AL AL AL Robert H son 6 AL AL AL Pauline dau 4 1/12 AL AL AL Novela dau 1 8/12 AL AL AL 1930 Colliers, Madison, AL ED 14 sheet 3B 7 Apr 1930 50 50 Webster, Alva J, 30, md age 21, AL AL AL farmer Annie age 25 md age 16 TN TN TN bufford son 6 AL AL TN Neddie dau 4 AL AL TN Bennon son 2 AL AL TN Hazyle dau 8/12 AL AL TN 51 51 Webster, N Sam 54 md age 27, AL AL AL farmer Laura E wife 51 md age 24 AL AL AL Gracie M dau 21 single AL AL AL Sussie L dau 18 single AL AL AL R Herman son 16 single AL AL AL farm labor M Pauline dau 14 single AL AL AL Novellia E dau 12 AL AL AL Johnnie C dau 18 single AL AL AL Shelton, Edyna (?) grandchild female 6 AL AL AL Andrew H grandchild 4 AL AL AL Nowhere do I find Myrtle D. as Nathan Samuel's wife. And how would "Lonza" be derived from Nathan Samuel? Aarrgh! If we toss out that theory, then I have two more for ya! I found this in 1930, but have been unable to find them in 1920 or 1910. Myrtle is the right age...Samuel L could be Samuel Lonza. 1930 Blytheville, Mississippi Co, Ark ED 15 sheet 18b 15 Apr 1930 416 460 Webster, Samuel L, rent $15, age 52, md at age 25, AL AL AL engineer, cotton compress Myrtle L wife 45 md at age 19 AL AL AL OR one more scenario. Look who is living right in the same household with Ruben and Cynthia Webster in 1910: 1910 Gurley, Madison, AL ED 138 sheet 12B 5 May 1910 253 257 Harbin, Lanzie (?) T, 26, first marriage, married 3 yrs, AL TN AL farmer Mary B wife 23 first mariage, married 3 yrs, 1 b 1 liv, AL AL AL Lissie G dau 2 AL AL AL Webster, Reubin C, 66, 2nd marriage, md 24 yrs, AL AL AL farmer Cyntha A wife 48 first marriage, md 24 yrs, 8 births 3 living AL AL AL Mattie P dau 17 single AL AL AL Leona dau 11 AL AL AL My theory for that Lanzie Harbin is this could be Lonza Webster (censustaker error?). Told ya it was farfetched. Wife has the wrong name, too. And I can't find Lanzie as a teenager living at home in 1900 in Madison Co, nor can I find him in 1920. Got any thoughts on this? I realize your thoughts are more centered on your construction right now, but put this aside till you have time to focus on it, and in the meantime, maybe I'll find the answer!!!!!!
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