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1. Title:   Here Be Dragons
Author:   Sharon Kay Penman
Publication:   Ballantine Books, New York 1985
2. Title:   University of Hull Royal Database (England)
Author:   Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science
Publication:   copyright 1994, 1995, 1996
3. Title:   The Royal Bastards of Medieval England
Author:   Chris Given-Wilson & Alice Curteis
Publication:   1984, republished by Barnes & Noble in 1995
4. Title:   Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
Author:   Marlyn Lewis
Publication:   08 Oct 1997
5. Title:   Magna Charta Sureties, 1215
Page:   line 149B pp 155-156
Author:   Frederick Lewis Weis
Publication:   4th ed, Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore
6. Title:   Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America bef 1760
Page:   line 236, p 201, line 27
Author:   Frederick Lewis Weis
Publication:   7th ed Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore 1992
7. Title:   Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy
Page:   p 71
Author:   Alison Weir
Publication:   rev. ed, Pimlico Random House, London 1989, 1996
8. Title:   large-G675.FTW
9. Title:   11615-2.ftw
10. Title:   actuarius.ged
11. Title:   roberts.GED
12. Title:   ralphroberts.ged
13. Title:   soc.genealogy.medieval
Page:   Chris Moore

a. Note:   [ralphroberts.ged] [roberts.GED] [roberts.GED] [actuarius.ged] [large-G675.FTW] ES III:356b credits John with two illegitimate children by Agatha de Ferrers - Joan and Richard. "Magna Charta Barons" by Charles H. Browning, copyright 1969 (I'm unsure of the overall reliability of this source), gives Joan's mother as Agatha de Ferrers, daughter of Robert de Ferrers, fourth Earl of Derby. The journal "The Plantagenet Connection" has published an ahnentafel of Elizabeth Plantagenet, wife of Henry VII, which gives Joan's mother's name as Constance (Clementia) of Brittany. This is the same Constance who was married to Geoffrey Plantagenet, John's brother. Considering the well-known animosity between Constance and John and her attempts to press her own son Arthur's interests as far as the throne of England were concerned (whom John murdered with his own hands) the relationship seems unlikely. The Constance that history portrays does not seem as one who John could easily seduce or coerce into bed. Others suggest her mother was Clemantina, the wife of Henry Pinel. Penman, Sharon Kay. "Here Be Dragons". New York: Ballatine Books, June 1993. Penman, Sharon Kay. "Falls The Shaow". New York: Ballatine Books, May 1989. Lewis, Marlyn (compiler for "The Plantagenet Connection"). "Ahnentafel for Elizabeth Plantagenet (Wife of Henry Tudor): Generations 1-15". Arvada, CO: Heliotrope Communications, 1996. Wurts, John C. "Magna Charta". Copyright 1945. Browning, Charles H. "Magna Charta Barons". Copyright 1969. Adams, Arthur and Frederick Weis. "Magna Charta Sureties". Copyright 1955. Sir J. E. Lloyd's "History of Wales", Vol.II is NOT responsible for the content of the GEDCOMs uploaded through the WorldConnect Program. The creator of each GEDCOM is solely responsible for its content.