Title: GEDCOM file submitted by myself ildau forsythe (at) fairpoint.net, & new data may be up&downloaded from https://familysearch.org/tree. Imported on 10 December 2015.
Note: AFN: http://www.scribnerfamilies.org/Report-BenjaminScribner.htm contact email says OBSOLETE2014Davenport (at) post.harvard.edu on http://wc.rootsweb.com ~strongest CT Scribner vejackson (at) rogers.com LDS families site (as I recall) former dougscrib (at) comcast.net MAY 2014 changing to cecilescrib (at) gmail.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ scribnerfamilies.org says marriage and first "two" children born Norwalk CT then moved to Huntington, Suffolk Co, NY . They did not like it but given land as inducement to stay, that contract expired 1694 and they returned to Norwalk CT. The first child evidently died born 31 mar 1681 maybe also named Thomas?; REFERENCES: History and Genealogy of The Families of Old Fairfield, pg 522-523.; A History of the Scribner Family, by Edwin Monroe Scribner, bef 1832, pg. 11-14; The Scribner Family, by Joseph Scribner, Rosendale, Wisconsin, pg. 3, 15-19. SOURCES: and possibly also history of old Fairfield by Jacobus says Sarah; A HISTORY OF THE SCRIBNER FAMILY 1971 BY HARVEY A. SCRIBNER,WINETKA,IL SENT 1994 CHARLES SCRIBNER THE3RD,VICEPRES,CHAS SCRIBNERS' SONS PUBL, 24TH FL 866 THIRD AVE NEW YORK 10022; new address?: www.galegroup.com/scribners/contc_us.htm has a possible address to try attn: publisher - imprint name macmillan reference USA 1633 broadway 23rd fl ny ny 10019; ***************** - !CT vital records in book form , called Barbour Collection at Yakima [WA] Valley Genealogical Society library March 2014 I, Warren Forsythe, looked for Scribners of 1700s and very early 1800s in those books: (in general many of the records asserted in above Scribner genealogies just do not appear in the CT vital records compiled as above) [I searched especially records for towns lying near the path from Norwalk CT and the CT border at southeast corner of Dutchess Co. NY where John Scribner, son of Benjamin born ca 1655, removed to by 1730s] specifically Norwalk CT has some records but omits most asserted records Wilton CT was copied by me, Ridgefield CT was copied by me, New Fairfield CT records evidently not in Barbour collection under that town name, Sherman CT nor New Milford CT nor New London Ct, nor Redding CT had no Scribner/Scrivener type surnames in those vital records, Danbury CT had a couple Scribner vital records, but one before 1827; Weston-Fairfield had maybe only about one early records: 24 sep 1766 Elias Scribner md Lydia Bennett; and Milford CT had maybe only one record from 1700s: 21 June 1797 Joel Scribner md Mary Bull (or surname ~like Bull?); - 2013 book Volume 11 eleven of book: Settlers of the Beekman Patent By Frank J Doherty pub. By New England Historic Genealogical Society - SEE pages 391 - 402 entitled "The Scribner Family" Extensive original documents from 1700s etc are cited and explained! ; - - - Eugene Jackson's database ezrascribner at http://wc.rootsweb.com Feb2007version He cites his sources: A very accurate and comprehensive Scribner source for me was Albert Scribner of Darien, CT. Sadly, he died in the mid-1990's. Albert left an enormous legacy - 14 or so large paper charts of the Loyalist Scribners. Albert spent many years researching in the States and in NB.The charts are on file at the public library in Saint John, NB. You could visit that library and make copies, but you don't need to - I have incorporated all of his data into the Scribner file which I posted at RootsWeb. [www.rootsweb.com under family trees] ; on page 1 of above 1971 book : In Colonial Families of US Benjamin Scivener of Norwalk, in his lifetime, claimed relationship to John Scriven(Scribner) of NHampshire; Charles Sinnett ca. 1920 History of the Scribner Families in America copy found 1991-1992 in Maine State Archives; family group sheets from: (in1994) Leone Jamieson 1113 Stymie Close, Qualicum Beach BC V9K 1E4 Canada (in 1994) Debra M. Lyddon M.D., 1510 S 88th st Omaha NE 68124-1345 1995 DorisJean Lobe(MrsHoward) 7403 78th StNE Marysville WA 98270 3606587600; or alternate: Doris c/o daughter Barb Gates 1800 Beacon Way SE RentonWA98058 DORIS ADDITIONAL SOURCES: William Richard Cutter, NEW ENGLAND FAMILIES GENEALOGICAL AND MEMORIAL Vol 2 , pp 894-5 (New York: MacMillan, 1913); Lucius B. Barbour, FAMILIES OF EARLY HARTFORD CT, (Baltimore:GenPubCo no date nor page given); R R Hinman FIRST PURITAN SETTLERS (Baltimore:Clearfield no date nor page given); James Savage ,GEN DICT of 1st Settlers of New England, a standard ref book Jacobus, Donald L., HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE FAMILIES OF OLD FAIRFIELD (bALTIMORE: Gen Pub Co, 3 Vols); SEE ALSO HER SOURCES UNDER MY NOTES FOR NATHAN DISBROW B.1715(MD.sCRIBNER); Leone mentioned the following sources: Gen. Register Norwalk CT p.189, p.233.; Hist and Gen of Families of Old Fairfield CT Vol.1 p522,Vol2p.824,825 The Scribner Family p.440-443; The Children of Zaccheus Scribner compiled by John C. Pearson, 1574 E 108 St Clerveland OH; "Norwalk" CT p.105, 200, 426-430 and index; Directory of New England Families; NEW BRUNSWICK CONNECTIONS: reportedly several of the Scribners moved back and forth repeatedly for some time after 1783 from Connecticutt to New Brunsick Canada. On page 429 of NORWALK reference above, "Five of the Norwalk Scribners, viz: Hezekiah b. 1759, Elias, Thaddeus, John, Thomas b.1760 settled in 1783 in New Brunswick" The only one I can place reasonably clearly is Thomas born 1760 son of Zaccheus son of Thomas, son of Benjamin Scribner of Norwalk Ct; CORRESPONDENTS: dec 2000 researcher leone jamieson of BC canada was no longer living at 1113 stymie close qualicum beach bc v9k 1 e4; ancestry.com aug 25 2001 upload of database :1085430 (colon is part of database name) at http://wc.rootsweb.com by steve scribner firstname.lastname@example.org has many more descendants for benj1benj2abraham3 than my compilation has here; sept 2006 to patrick scribner (530) 666-2727 who's in touch w ChasScribnerSons: Thanks for getitng back to us; apparently the answer is no, the current Chas Scribner family no longer can locate the supply of the Harvey Scribner book that they appeared to have well-located 10 years ago. -------------------- That's fine; I have a personal copy. (Because I have the most extensive Scribner of CT website) People continually ask about how to purchase the Harvey Scribner book---and Chas Scribner the 4th or 5th had a supply of them 10 years ago, when they still ran the publishing house (just as interested descendants, not as publishers). So (because genealogists continually ask me how to purchase the book) I wanted to ask if they still had so many that they'd sell them to purchasers. But their address, that I had 10 years ago at the publishing house, is no good anymore; so I tried to ask through you; since you seemed more in touch. Loyalist/Tory Scribners 1783 in ship "Union" from Norwalk CT to New Brunswick: 2007 dec 1 letter from Bourdon P Scribner of Harrison Maine: many years ago, 8 july 1973 on 3rd floor of New Brunswick Museum 277 Douglas Ave, Saint John, New Brunswick Canada: ---NOTE "Eugene Jackson's descendancy", or Eugene for short, refers to http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ezrascribner&id=I516 version of 22 Feb 2007; ========================== The following SCRIBNERs, all 8 lines Loyalists, came from Norwalk CT in 1783: (1) Philip [probably Eugene's Benj1Thos2Philip3] signed his will in 1789, and soon died. He was granted land in Kingston, Kings Co., NB; - (2) Elias [probably Eugene's Benj1Joseph2Elias3Elias4], a shoemaker when he boarded "union" transport in 1783. Later, a farmer. Settled in Gagetown with wife Lydia Bennet and died there in Mar. 1808. Widow, Lydia d. 24 sept. 1817. Buried Gagetown 26 Sept. 1817. Have records of nine children and his son Elias's nine children Baptism, Gagetown. Aldo his son, Ebenezer who m. 1811 Gagetown. These unions have no records of a William H. Scribner b. 17 Mar. 1802; - (3) Thaddeus [probably Eugene's Benj1Joseph2Elias3Thaddeus4], shoemaker d. 14 feb 1837 at the residence of Mr. James W. Scott, aged 77 years [Thaddeus's age presumed]. "He came to this province with the Loyalists in the year 1783 on the "Union" transport." No further record of this family; - (4) Hezekiah [probably Eugene's Benj1Thos2Philip3Hezekiah4], farmer when he boarded the "Union" in 1783, tannen in NB. Ran tan yard on "Union." St. John, NB, died 1820 aged 61 years. Record found ofg wife, Mary _____ by whom they baptized Betsy, 1786, Gagetown, NB. Had a least two sons born Norwalk CT. Hezekiah may have m. 2nd 2 mar 1813, Rebecca Olmstead, widow of Sheffield. Rebecca was the executrix of the estate of H. Scribner 1820; - (5) Ebenezer [probably Eugene's Benj1Joseph2Elias3Ebenezer4], recorded in the parish of Gagetown, Church of England, Queens Co., NB: Sam'l the son of Ebenezer and Elinor Scribner baptized 25 June 1786. Ebenezer was early grantee of land in Kingston, Kings Co., NB Elenor on record in Kings Co., 1798; - (6) Nehemiah[probably Eugene's Benj1Thos2Philip3Nehemiah4], was granted land in Kingston, Kings Co., 1799; - (7) Thomas[probably Eugene's Benj1Thos2Zaccheus3Thos4], of Norwalk CT m. 3 May 1780 Elizabeth Webb at Green Farm Churchm near Norwalk CT. Thomas is on records in the archives; - ONLY RECORD, found by Bourdon then, OF EARLY NEW BRUNSWICK SCRIBNER AS MARINER (8) Joseph Scribner[probably Eugene's Benj1Joseph-Matthew2Joseph3], Mariner, freeman of St. John, 1795 Bourdon Scribner says he's same Joseph described as shoemaker when first granted LOT # 310 land at Parrtown, orig. name of St John, [granted ca.? 1785] Sunsequent grant, or place or res., Kingston. See reg. of voters, etc., St. John Poll Book 1785-1862 and St. John County Poll Book, 1802. Sgt. Joseph Scribner on list of residents of the city & county of St. John, as being between ages fo 16 & 60 during 1809-1811. Joseph and Barbary had children Hannah & Joseph Jarvis bapt. 26 June 1786 at Gagetown, Church of England. Joseph Jarvis Scribner mason, freeman of St. John, 1807. See Reg. of Voters, City of St. John. Mr. Joseph Scribner m. Miss Mary Kennedy, both of St. John, on Thurs. 4 May 1809 by Rev. Dr. Byles. Joseph S. Scribner of St John m. Mary McCollough 1 July 1815 ----------------------------------- [Bourdon suggests this joseph is #1 candidate to be long-sought father William H Scribner, the NB Sea Captain, (1802-1841)--as most of the other early Scribners were shoemakers, leather manufacturers, or farmers. [Forsythe infers that]Joseph was apparently born ca 1740 son of Mary Abbott and Joseph Matthew Scribner of Norwalk CT who apparently traveled to NB 1783 on the "Union" ship. Bourdon Scribner suggests looking at any direct/indirect probate records one might find for that Joseph who died after 1814, maybe after 1822.] (--Note that I, Forsythe, sympathize with whatever difficult probate searching has already been tried; but I am just quoting the suggestions of Bourdon P. Scribner on where he suggests concentrating search effort.); some supplementary info ? by robert Ralsey Davenport b. ca 1950 Brookline MA ?: in any case robert davenport email is: Davenport (at) post.Harvard.edu descendancy by Robert Davenport seen on internet(no sources given) 9 Dec 2007: (I was referred to it by Joan Provost 9 Dec 2007): See: http://18.104.22.168/search?q=cache:Q01pYFBQtrYJ:members.tripod.com/
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