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Note: N1992 1773 June 10. bo. Apr. 18. Jacob of Jacob Van Aarnem and Annatje V.Franken. Wit. Hendrik and Margarita Waldrom. _______________ Jones, Harriet, m. Jacob VanArmam of Ernestown. OC 12 Nov 1811. Jones, Catherine, m. Gideon Van Arnam of Augusta. OC 19 May 1812 [The Loyalists in Ontario [database on-line]. Page 167. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: Reid, William D. The Loyalists in Ontario: The Sons and Daughters of the American Loyalists of Upper Canada. Lambertville, NJ, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1973.] _______________ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 From: "Pete Gonigam" <gonigam@@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [VANNORMAN] Y-DNA Announcement To: <vannorman@@rootsweb.com> My line is from Jacob (Jr.) Van Arnam (1773) who between 1804-1810 with his brothers Richard and John claimed free land in the vicinity of Kingston, ON, as sons of Jacob (Sr.) Van Arnam, Brunswick, NY, a Loyalist Ensign during the Revolution. Although their name was Van Arnam it was often transcribed as Van Ornam/Orman/Norman. About half of Jacob (Jr.)'s kids eventually migrated to Illinois, perhaps as a result of the Panic of 1837; one definitely in connection with Dunscomb's Rebellion. This line is traceable back to 1664, New Amsterdam, however at least one and perhaps three early collateral lines are still missing. There is a second family named Van Norman (Joseph and Benjamin) out of Pennsylvania by way of Western New York who settled around Brantsford, ON, to smelt iron ore around 1825. They may descend from a guy named Joseph Van Norman who lived in the Minisinck area of New York, Pennsylvania and New Jersey about 1750 but it dead ends there. Many believe he was the son of Samuel Van Amen/Naamen who married Sara Delmontainie. Maybe he was but all of this descent looks to trace to a book on the Montaigne family published over 100 years ago which doesn't seem to cite any authority for it.There are enough specific early birth dates associated with this family that I suspect there is or was at one time a family Bible somewhere. However, I've never seen it or even reference to it. The question is whether these are two distinct families or one long-separated? The answer is there's not enough information yet. --pete
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