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Note: The Kingdom of Prussia did not institute the civil registration of births, deaths, and marriages until 1874. All that would be available before that time period would be church baptismal records. But in view of the large number of churches in a city the size of Berlin, it would be like looking for a needle in a haystack, unless you happened to know just which of the many Berlin churches the family attended. November 19, 2004: The following Information from Olivette Podszus was compiled by Olivette, her sister Viola, their father Fred England and his sister Hazel England. 1. It took the Reeder's 3 months to cross the ocean to America as their ship developed a leak and it took a month to fix it. 2. John Frederick was 10 years old when his family came to this country. His brother, Jacob, was 2 at the time and in order to keep from paying fare for him, the parents put him in a box until they were aboard ship. 3. John Frederick Reeder had four brothers and a sister. All the boys were named John with different middle names. This was a German custom. (This information found on Old German naming patterns does confirm the custom...The first name of each daughter was usually the first name of the mother. The first name of the son was usually the first name of the father. Often the middle name of each child was the name of the baby's baptismal sponsor and they were usually called by his/her middle name.) 4. John P. Reeder settled in Chillicothe and had a cooperage shop in Chillicothe where some of the boys worked. It is not known if they owned it or just worked there. A cooper shop is where they make or repair barrels. 5. The mother is believed to have died in Illinois. 6. John P. Reeder died at the home of his son, John Jacob "Jake" Reeder. 7. Phillip, one of William & Ethel (Clark) Reeter's grandsons has done family research and is supposed to have taken it back to Germany where he could do nothing further because of records being destroyed during the War. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In the 1840 Census, unknown township, Tazewell County, Illinois, page 42, I found the following family I am wondering about. With the 1840 census only listing the name of the head of household it is hard to know for sure this is the right family. REEDER, Jacob (total in household = 21) Males 2 - under age 5 (could these 2 be Peter & John Jacob "Jake") 1 - 5 & under 10 (could this be Phillip) 1 - 10 & under 15 (could this be Fred) 1 - 15 & under 20 (could this be George Daniel) 1 - 20 & under 30 1 - 40 & under 50 (could this be their father-John P.) 1 - 60 & under 70 (could this be their father's brother) Females 10 - under age 5 1 - 5 & under 10 1 - 15 & under 20 1 - 40 & under 50 (could this be their mother) I sure don't understand the 10 females under age 5. The census page is clear and easy to read, and it definitely says there were 21 in the household. ------------------------------------------------------- Deed Records of Livingston County, Missouri, 1855-1857. Volume 6 Deed Book H No. 263 Ind..11 Aug. 1856..by and between Abel Cox and Sarah M. Cox, his wife...and Phillipp Reader, Sr. Could this be John P. REEDER??? -------------------------------------------------------------- April 26, 2006: I am still unable to locate John P. Reeder in the 1840, 1850 and 1860 census. I am wondering if the John Reeder living in Moniteau County, MO in 1860 might be him. 1860 Census Township 45, Range 14, Moniteau County, Missouri enumerated Sept. 1, 1860 - Post Office: California Dwelling #1565 REEDER, John, 71, male, farmer, $80, born in Germany _______, Catharine, 68, female, born in Germany - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - STATE OF MISSOURI--County of Livingston Administrator's Notice. --- Notice is hereby given that the undersigned, Public Administrator of Livingston County, Missouri, has this day taken charge of the estate of John P. Reeder, deceased, late of Livingston County. All persons having claims against said estate, will exhibit them for allowance to the Administrator within one year from date, or they may be precluded from any benefit of such estate; and if such claims be not exhibited within two years from date, they will be forever debarred. Nov. 9, 1869 Harrison Harker, Public Administrator STATE OF MISSOURI--County of Livingston J. J. Reeder being duly sworn says that to the best of his knowledge & belief the names of the heirs of John P. Reeder deceased are David Reeder Residence State of Illinois, Phillip Reeder, Peter Reeder, Fredrick Reeder and J. J. Reeder, children of deceased. Signed: J. J. Reeder Subscribed and sworn to before me this 12th day of March 1870. Signed C. Curtiss, Judge Note: In reviewing the hand written document of the above, the word "David" could be interpreted as "Daniel" as it really doesn't spell either name. George Daniel Reader was living in Illinois in 1870 and he went by the name "Daniel". Livingston County Missouri Probate Records Box No. 2332 John P. Reeder, died 1870 Garrison Harker, Admr. Heirs: David Reeder, son Phillip Reeder, son Peter Reeder, son Frederick Reeder, son J. J. Reeder, Son Note: 1.The above Livingston County Probate Record indicates John P. Reeder died in 1870. However if you refer to the Administrator's Notice dated Nov. 9, 1869 it says John P. was already deceased. So...he apparently died before Nov. 9, 1869 not in 1870. 2.The 1870 Census record enumerated July 1870 shows Jake living in Jackson Township, Livingston County, MO. Post Office: Spring Hill Occupation: farmer 3. Cemetery where he is buried is unknown. If he died near Spring Hill, place of burial could be Spring Hill Cemetery. Louise Havens Note: the ages of some of those listed are not correct and I do not find a listing for John Peter. I have not confirmed to be the right family. Just a possibility! New York, Passenger and Immigration Lists, 1820-1850 Name: Phillippe Rider Arrival Date: 29 Jul 1840 Age: 49 Gender: M (Male) Port of Arrival: New York Port of Departure: Havre Place of Origin: Deutschland Ship: Florida Family Identification: 30022220 Microfilm Serial Number: M237 Microfilm Roll Number: 43 DISTRICT OF NEW YORK --- PORT OF NEW YORK NEW YORK, PASSENGER LISTS, 1820-1957 SHIP: Florida CAPTAIN: George B. Woodworth (not sure 'worth' is correct) FROM: Havre DATE: July 29, 1840 Included in passenger list: Phillippe Reder, 49, male, Mason Fred Reder, 15, male John P. Reder, 13, male George Reder, 10, male Jacob Reder, 5, male Elizabeth Reder, 30, female, Cook
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