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Family
Marriage: Children:
  1. Charles Edward POUNDER: Birth: 3 Apr 1870 in 65 Penn Street, Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England. Death: Bet Apr 1871 and Jun 1871 in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

  2. Florence Mary POUNDER: Birth: 3 Apr 1870 in 65 Penn Street, Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England. Death: 1952 in Bulmer, North Yorkshire, England


Family
Marriage: Children:
  1. Mark Hammond POUNDER: Birth: 18 Jun 1869 in Lambeth, Surrey (Now Greater London), England. Death: 24 Oct 1955 in Hawtonville Hospital, Newark, Nottinghamshire, England

  2. Lucy Jane POUNDER: Birth: 3 Apr 1871 in 16 Back Clarence Street, Little Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: 1 Mar 1971 in Bolton, Lancashire, England

  3. Louisa Charlotte POUNDER: Birth: Abt Mar 1873 in Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: 31 Aug 1960 in 25 Arkwright Street, Bolton, Lancashire

  4. Mary Ann (Polly) POUNDER: Birth: Abt Nov 1875 in Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: 1960 in Bolton, Lancashire, England

  5. Margaret Isabella (Maggie) POUNDER: Birth: Abt Dec 1877 in Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: Abt Feb 1914 in Bolton, Lancashire, England

  6. Catherine Ellen or Kathleen Ellen POUNDER: Birth: 26 Jun 1879 in Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: 22 Apr 1923 in South Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

  7. John James Edgar POUNDER: Birth: Abt 3 Mar 1881 in Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: in Bolton, Lancashire, England

  8. Olive Agnes POUNDER: Birth: Oct 1882 in Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: 1972 in Banff, Alberta, Canada

  9. Albert Edward POUNDER: Birth: 1 Apr 1885 in Bolton, Lancashire, England. Death: 2 Oct 1945 in Bolton, Lancashire, England


Sources
1. Title:   Martin Briscoe
Author:   AKA James Martin Briscoe
Publication:   mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk
Text:   mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk
2. Title:   Ian Chisnall's GEDCOM 29.03.02
Author:   Ian Chisnall
3. Title:   GEDCOM
Author:   Donna Alden-Bugden
4. Title:   Donna L. Alden-Bugden
Author:   donna@alden-bugden.ca
5. Title:   Multiple Spouses
6. Title:   Martin Briscoe
Author:   AKA James Martin Briscoe
Publication:   mbriscoe@zetnet.co.uk
7. Title:   Ian Chisnall
8. Title:   GEDCOM
9. Title:   1891 Census
Page:   RG12/4022 Folio 56a Page 7
10. Title:   1871 Census
Page:   RG10/5080 Folio 56 Page 38
11. Title:   Estimated
12. Title:   1881 Census
Page:   Source:FHL Film 1341917 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3837 Folio 68 Page 19
13. Title:   FreeBMD
Page:   Death Bolton 1888 Q1 Vol 8c Page 289
Author:   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
14. Title:   BMD
Page:   Death Bolton 1888 Q1 Vol 8c Page 289
15. Title:   FreeBMD
Page:   Death Bolton 1888 Q1 Vol 8c Page 289
Author:   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
16. Title:   FreeBMD
Page:   Death Bolton 1888 Q1 Vol 8c Page 289
Author:   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
17. Title:   FreeBMD
Author:   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
18. Title:   Death Certificate
Page:   James Pounder
19. Title:   Death Certificate
20. Title:   Register of purchased Family Graves
Author:   Bolton Cemetery Office
21. Title:   1851 Census
Page:   HO107/2376 Folio 124 Page 14
22. Title:   1851 Census
23. Title:   1871 Census
Page:   RG10/3936 Folio 26 Page 45
24. Title:   1881 Census
25. Title:   1881 Census
Page:   Source:FHL Film 1341917 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3837 Folio 8 Page 9
26. Title:   Marriage Certificate
Page:   James Pounder = Hannah Amanda Young
27. Title:   Marriage Certificate
28. Title:   Birth Certificate
Page:   Lucy Jane Pounder
29. Title:   Bolton Post Office Directory 1876-1877
30. Title:   Axon's Commercial and General Directory Bolton 1881
31. Title:   FreeBMD
Page:   Volume 10a Page 49
Author:   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
32. Title:   BMD
Page:   Volume 10a Page 49
33. Title:   FreeBMD
Page:   Volume 10a Page 49
Author:   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
34. Title:   FreeBMD
Author:   http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

Notes
a. Note:   ---------------------------- with LEE grandparents in 1851. His Parents are in Seaton Carew, Durham in 1851 with their son Robert.
  Cannot find James in 1861 census but his parents are in Middlesborough, York
  1871 Census: Bolton 16 Back Clarence Street James POUNDER H M 29 Joiner Yorkshire Stokesley Isabella POUNDER W M 22 - Yorkshire Laverton Mark H POUNDER S - 1 - Middlesex London
  Most records point to Mark b. 1869 not 1870, but not certain. In 1871 census, he was listed as 1 year old. If he was born Jun 1869 he would be 1 year and 10 months. If born in Jun 1870, he would be only 10 months old. The census was done April 2nd and it asked for age on the day the census was done. Thus b. June 1869, he would be 1 year old in April 1871.
  This census does not state that Mark is a step son nor does it state his surname different from James, so at this point, I have to assume that Mark belongs to James Pounder and was an illegitimate child born probably in an unwed relationship with Isabella. It appears that he was likely in a unwed relationship with Isabella but he married Hannah in May 1869 in Lambeth, then Mark was born in Jun 1869 in Lambeth. His 2 children with Hannah were born April 1870 in Newcastle Upon Tyne (probably James and Hannah were separated by this point as James did not go to Newcastle Upon Tyne)...thus the twins likely conceived July 1869....but sometime between July 1869 and April 1871 (census time), he left Hannah and went to live with Isabella and his first son. ------------------ Bachelor when he got married to Hannah Amanda Young.
  The family disappears from various Bolton directories around 1887
  -------------------------------------------------------- brian legg Re: BRISCOE's in Stokesley Mon 21/0 2 /00 16:01 Hi Martin - I don't comprehend your subject title, but your James POUNDER (age 09) is in Stokesley in the 1851 census index. (HO107-2376-124). Don't know who he's li vi ng with though, not his parents !. -------------------------------------------------------- 20.11.00 Got Marriage Certificate for James Pounder in Lambeth but not to a Isabel which suggests that first wife might ha ve died and then remarried. But don't know when. Lambeth would fit in with first child being born in Lambeth but not found his birth yet. JUN 30, 1841, Stokesley, Yorkshire, England ____________
  1881 Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James POUNDER Head M Male 39 Stokesley, York, England Master Joiner Employing 6 Men & 2 Boys Isabell POUNDER Wife M Female 31 Chester, Cheshire, England Mark Hammond POUNDER Son Male 11 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar Lucy Jane POUNDER Daur Female 10 Bolton, Lancashire, England Louisa Charlotte POUNDER Daur Female 8 Bolton, Lancashire, England Scholar Mary Ann POUNDER Daur Female 5 Bolton, Lancashire, England Scholar Kate Ellen POUNDER Daur Female 1 Bolton, Lancashire, England John James POUNDER Son Male 1 m Bolton, Lancashire, England
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 126 Clarence St Census Place Little Bolton, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341917 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3837 / 68 Page Number 19 ------------------------------------ Notes from Brian Duxbury Hi guys,
  My cousin Carolyn has managed to talk with her mother, my Auntie Edna about family matters and she took notes. Carol phoned me last night and we talked for a long time, me taking notes which are as follows. I admit I havent yet checked out the Pounder Tree so we may already know all this.
  Anyway here goes
  Mary Ann (Polly) Duxbury, nee Pounder had the following brothers and sisters
  Mark Lucy Louise (Lou) Margaret (Maggie) Olive Kitty Albert
  Albert was father of Connie, and her brother also named Albert. But he was not recognised as her true brother. Reasons for this not known.
  Re James and Isabel. She does not know if they married or not.
  Her cousin, Norman Briscoe once said that Granny Swales had an affair with one of the wealthy owners of the house.
  When James and Isabel died 2 of the children lived off and on with Grandma Swales. These were Maggie who was Olive Molyneaux mother. And Polly.
  Some were cared for by the eldest daughter, Lucy
  Some were with the Chadwick Orphanage which was considered to be good and well looked after.
  Edna thinks Grandma Swales (as she was known) was called Mary and not Catherine. (I had asked about Catherine Swales as per the Census for 1901)
  Mark Hammond had done something terribly wrong and so was sent off to Canada
  Later he sent for 2 of his sisters to join him, Olive and Kitty
  Olive had 2 children with Fred Waterworth, Florence, Marjorie and Bill (that makes 3 unless she meant 2 girls)
  Kitty married a butcher and had 2 boys (cannot recall their names) and a girl Kathleen
  Mark had a son who died.
  Mark came back to England and turned up at Rydal Mount (Polly and Tom's house in Bolton) with his new wife called Fanny who was not at all liked by Polly. They stayed with them only a short time.
  She says Bill will know all about Mark as it was his mother who knew him.
  Bill married Bern in Banff and had 3 children. Lyne (who married Fred Pratt), Christie and Bunty
  Bern's great grandfather or grandfather was the first white man to see the beautiful lake which he named Louise. And at the front of the big hotel at Lake Louise is a statue of him.
  It is best to contact Bill Waterworth about Mark. He is getting old now but is younger than Edna
  His address is
  210 Marmot Crescent Banff Alberta TOLOCO
  Or
  PO BOX 1913 Banff
  Tel: 001 403 762 2170
  Well, that is it
  Carol pointed out that her mother may not have remembered correctly some of the parts she talked about. Also, with regard to Mark she says he was very rarely mentioned and what caused him to be sent away is only speculation. She was not told what it was he had done.
  After taking down the above notes I opened the Pounder Tree as Carol asked me to check the name of Grandma's granny. I already thought it wasn't a Swales but wasn't sure exactly. It is Mary Ann Lee.
  Carol asks could this Mary be the same one Edna recalls as Grandma Swales being called Mary. Is there a connection?
  Or did they call her "Grandma" although she was not actually a blood relation? And how was she connected to Bolton?
  Maybe she is correct that Bill knows more than he has divulged about Marks life.
  bye for now Brian Duxbury ---------------------------------- London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about James Pounder Name:James Pounder Spouse Name:Hannah Amanda Yeung Record Type:Banns Event Date:2 May 1868 Parish:Saint Mary At Lambeth County:Middlesex Borough:Lambeth
  London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about James Pounder Name:James Pounder Age:Full Age Estimated Birth Year:abt 1869 Spouse Name:Hannah Amanda Young Record Type:Marriage Event Date:19 May 1869 Parish:Saint Mary At Lambeth County:Middlesex Borough:Lambeth Father Name:Robert Pounder Spouse Father Name:James Young
b. Note:   HI36647
Note:   (Research):Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Births Mar 1852 Pounder John Bolton 8c286 Births Jun 1871 Pounder Lucy Jane Bolton 8c328 Births Mar 1873 Pounder Louisa Charlotte Bolton 8c360 Births Dec 1875 POUNDER Mary Ann Bolton 8c400 Births Dec 1877 POUNDER Margaret Isabel Bolton 8c408 Births Sep 1879 Pounder Catherine Ellen Bolton 8c383 Deaths Dec 1881 Pounder John James E 0 Bolton 8c236 Births Jun 1885 Pounder Albert Edward Bolton 8c419 Deaths Mar 1888 POUNDER James 47 Bolton 8c282 Pounder James 47 Bolton 8c289 Deaths Dec 1888 POUNDER Isabel 39 Bolton 8c257 Marriages Sep 1898 Pounder Louisa Charlotte Bolton 8c472 Marriages Jun 1901 Pounder Lucy Jane Bolton 8c578 Marriages Sep 1901 Pounder Margaret Isabella Bolton 8c543 Births Mar 1902 Pounder Mary Agnes Bolton 8c512 Marriages Mar 1902 Pounder John William Bolton 8c547 Marriages Jun 1902 POUNDER Mary Ann Bolton 8c497 Births Jun 1909 POUNDER Albert Bolton 8c495 -------------------------- Wonder if this is James and ISabella's marriage??? - no it isn't. Found William Augustus Hewett married to Minnie Emma in 1871 and 1881 and Emma Minnie Hewett died in 1907 July/Aug/Sept View Record Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County Caroline Brittzo 1869 Lambeth Greater London, London, Surrey Emma Minnie Hammond 1869 Lambeth Greater London, London, Surrey William Augustus Hewett 1869 Lambeth Greater London, London, Surrey James Pinder 1869 Lambeth Greater London, London, Surrey
c. Note:   MI36647
Note:   (Medical):Certified by E C Kingsford LRCP
d. Note:   NF12330
Note:   Witnesses Ed Powell Ann Miles
e. Note:   NF12304
Note:   Reference Number:1460 Not 100% sure that have right marriage details Alt Marriage: James POUNDER Date: Between 1869 and 1870 Notes: Not 100% sure that have right marriage details


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