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Note: (Research):"Wynn," is the Old English word for "joy" or "pleasure," and is thought to be related to Latin "venus," which means, among other things, "charm."
Re: John Bartley Wynn's father MichaelKnight17 (View posts) Posted: 1 Jan 2010 9:37AM Classification: Query Surnames: William Wynne and Elzabeth Echols are my 3rd great grandparents. The following excerpt mentions them as grandparents of Lucindie Wynne whom I am related to:
"HISTORY OF LAURENS COUNTY, GEORGIA, pg 552: 4. John E. Duncan, born July 7, 1829, in Bladen County, North Carolina, died November 12, 1904, in Wilkinson County, GEORGIA, was a Confederate veteran. On June 17, 1849, in Wilkinson County, GEORGIA, he married Lucindie Wynne, who was born Octoner 11, 1826, died June 29, 1903. She was the daughter of William and Susannah Henson Wynne of Wilkinson County, GEORGIA. She was the granddaughter of Captain William and Elizabeth Echols Wynne and William and Martha Henson, all of Burke County, GEORGIA. John E. and Lucinde Wynne Duncan are buried at Salem Methodist Church."
I don't know where the birth dates for William and Elizabeth come from that you mention however. I believe that William and Elizabeth migrated to Burke County, GEORGIA sometime in the 1780's from Virginia and were possibly married there before they came to GEORGIA. They then moved to Wilkinson County, GEORGIA sometime after 1810 and appeared in the census records there. They were on the 1820, 1830 and 1840 census records in Wilkinson County and did not appear in Wilkinson County after that.
Re: John Bartley wynn's father mongkei (View posts) Posted: 2 Jan 2010 6:40PM Classification: Query Surnames: Thank you for that contribution Michael. Many families, in those days moved with siblings or parents too. Do you have any indication that William and Elizabeth moved from Burke County or North Carolina solely or with other members of the family aside from their own children?
Gervaise Wynn Perdue suggested some time ago that male descendants of William and Bartley should have a DNA test. At the least that could establish a kindred relationship of Bartley's line to William Wynn. That idea seems to have fizzled but would be worth resurrecting.
Re: John Bartley wynn's father MichaelKnight17 (View posts) Posted: 3 Jan 2010 9:29AM Classification: Query Surnames: A relative of William Wynne by the name of Peter Wynne, with his wife and family, moved from Virginia to what was to become Burke County, Georgia in 1755 after the ban on the use of slavery in Georgia had been lifted and lived the rest of their lives there. A Francis Wynne, with his wife Tabitha, and 5 children arrive in what was to become Burke County around 1763. Somewhere around 1785 - 1786, Thomas Wynne, his wife Mary Echols and their family moved from Virginia to Wilkes County, Georgia and at the same time George Poythress and his father moved to what was to become Burke County. George Poythress was related to the Wynnes. I am guessing that William Wynne and Elizabeth Echols came in that whole party from Virginia to Georgia.
William and Elizbeth Echols Wynne then moved with their children from Burke County to Wilkinson County after 1810 without any other family members that I know of. The 1820, 1830 and 1840 census show him in Wilkinson County and the 1840 census shows him as between 70 and 80 years old and Elizabeth as between 60 and 70 years old. Neither he nor Elizabeth appear in the Wilkinson County census after 1840.
Their oldest son William "Billy" Wynn either stayed in Burke County or returned there before May 1811 because he married Susan Hinson in Burke County on 11 May 1811. Their first child was born in Burke County in 1812 and shortly after that they returned to Wilkinson Conuty where they lived the rest of their lives.
I think Gervaise is right about the DNA tests but no one has come forward yet to do the tests. I am not a direct male decsendant of the Wynn(e) linage so I couldn't help but I would love for someone to step up an do the tests. That might solve a lot of other problems we have regarding William Wynne and Elizabeth Echols too. Source: You are here: Message Boards > Surnames > Wynn > John Bartley wynn's father, Ancestry.com Message Boards, 2 and 3 January 2010.
********************************** 1842 JUSTICE OF THE PEACE: Bartley Wynn was a Justice of the Peace in Jefferson County, Florida. He was commissioned March 10, 1842 with a term expiring March 10, 1844. Source: p. 22, Journal of the proceedings of the Legislative Council of the Territory of Florida... Tallahassee: S.S. Sibley, Printer, Floridian Office, 1843.
Found in the Wire Grass Reporter, "For Sale Will be offered for sale, at public out-cry, in the town of Thomasville, on the first Tuesday in April next, one negro man, one negro woman and two children. Bartley Wynn" Source: p. 61, In the Shadow of the Pines, volume I, Wayne and Judy Dasher, published by the authors, 2001.
Found in the Southern Enterprise, August 4, 1860. Bartly Wynn was appointed as a delegate by the Chair for the purpose of ratifying the nomination of the vice-president and presidential candidates, of the United States; and to appoint state delegates to the State Convention. Source: p. 184, In the Shadow of the Pines, volume I, Wayne and Judy Dasher, published by the authors, 2001.
Bartly Wynn's name is found on a list of appointed delegates from Thomas County to the State Convention, to assemble in Milledgeville on the 13th instant. Appeared in Southern Enterprise on Wednesday, August 8, 1860. Source: P. 85, Thomas County Georgia, Newspaper Clippings, Volume I 1857-1875 by Tad Evans, August 1995.
Bartley Wynn's name appeared on a list printed in Southern Enterprise indicating that he had letters remaining in the Post Office at Thomasville, Thomas County, Georgia, on the first day of April 1861. Source: P. 112, Thomas County Georgia, Newspaper Clippings, Volume II 1857-1875 by Tad Evans, August 1995.
Southern Enterprise, August 5, 1861 [Communicated] Seventeeth District, Thomas Co., Ga., August 5, 1861
"Mr. Editor: Presuming that it would be of interest to your readers to hear from this part of the world, I address you this communication, which you can make public if you see proper.
On Saturday, 27th ult., a goodly number of the citizens of the district met at the house of Bartly Wynn for the purpose of organizing a Volunteer Company, which company was to be tendered to Gov. Brown for service. A portion of the old men of the district being present pledged themselves publicly that the families of those who left with the company would not suffer during their absence. When the call for volunteers was made forty-three stepped forward and enrolled.
We then appointed a meeting for the next Monday at the same place. Our list was run up to fifty-four on that day. The election of officers was gone into on this day and resulted, without opposition, in the election of H.C. Bowen Captain, Thomas Ballard First, Jno. G. Linsey Second and James P. NeSmith Third Lieutenants.
On Saturday 3d int., we again met at the 17th Court Ground when the doors were again opened, and I learn that the list was run up to seventy-seven--thus in the short space of one week making almost a complete company from one militia district, as there is not a single member of the company that claims his residence anywhere else but in the Seventeenth." Source: P. 77, Thomas County Georgia, Newspaper Clippings, Volume II 1857-1875 by Tad Evans, August 1995. ************************************ Bartley Wynn was the administrator for his father-in-law, Burrell Taylor's estate. He filed July 2, 1855 in Thomas County, Georgia, pages 358-359.
************************************ Thomas Co., Will Book "H" pgs 227-229.
State of Georgia In the name of God Amen, I Bartly Wynn of the Said state and County Thomas County being of advanced age but of Sound and disposing mind and memory Knowing that I must shortly depart this life deem it right and proper both as respects my family and myself that I should make a disposition of the property with which a kind providence has blessed me: I do therefore make this my last Will and Testament hereby revoking and annulling all others by me heretofore made.
First I desire and direct that my body be burried in a decent and Christianlike manner Suitable to my circumstances and condition in life. My Soul I trust shall return to rest with God who gave it, as I hope for Salvation through the merits and attonement of the blessed Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Secondly I desire and direct that all my just debts be paid by my Executors herinafter named and appointed.
Thirdly I give bequeath and devise to my beloved wife Gatsy Ann, during her lifetime or widowhood and her Seven Children (viz), Sarah Ann, William Riley, Susannah, John Green, Russel Bartly, Antonia, Nancy Jane, the following property to wit, Share and Share alike, one hundred and twenty five acres of Land it being the West half of lot number two hundred and sixty seven (267) in the seventeenth Dist of Thomas County known as the place whereon I now live to be Set off by line running due North and South together with one mare named Smokey also one mare named Pidgeon, one cow and calf or it's equivalent to each and all of them and all my hog stock. I desire if the increase of the mares Should be such as to be expensive and not necessary to carry on the farm that the Executors hereinafter appointed sell the same and apply the proceeds to the use of the above named legatees to assist the children in getting an education. I desire that all my Sheep, and Household and Kitchen Furniture together with all the farming implements of every discription unless the Executors should think their is a Surplus if So the excess to be Sold and the proceeds applied as above. I also desire the corn crop, fodder, potatoes & cane be left on the place and for the use of the place unless the Executors Should think their is a Surplus if So I desire them to Sell and apply the proceeds as above. I also desire my Buggy Should remain on the place for the use of the family. I also desire the cotton as Soon as convenient be Sold and after paying the expenses necessary thereto the remainder to be at the disposal of the Executors either to pay my debts or for the use of the above named Legatees as they may need. I also desire one half acre of the above named tract or parcel of land be set off and set apart for a burial ground it being known as the graveyard and in after time if the land should ever be sold I desire a reservation of the above amount of land for a burial ground.
Fourthly I desire all my first Wife's Children, (viz) Carenva, Elizabeth, Washington, Priscilla, Louisa, the children of George W. Wynn (viz), Rosetta Rosena, Rebeca. I desire my Executors to pay to Louisa Thompson for the use of her children ten dollars, I desire my Executors to pay to Prissilla Thompson for the use of her children five dollars, I desire my Executors to pay Carenva Wynn ten dollars, also G.W. Wynn's children five dollars each Rebecca Spence for the use of her children five dollars, Elizabeth W. Tilly for the use of her children five dollars. I also desire my Executors to pay out of my Estate to Carentha Tilly one hundred dollars together with one cow and calf whenever the stock not already devised will allow.
Fifthly I desire and devise that all the balance of my land containing five hundred and eighty two acres it being lot number (294), Two hundred and ninety four, two hundred and fifty acres, eighty four acres off of 295, two hundred and ninety five, one hundred & twenty three & one half off of ___ 268, two hundred and sixty eight, one hundred and twenty five acres off of 267, two hundred and sixty seven all in the Seventeenth Dist. of Thomas County be and the same together with all my property both real and personal not allready disposed of in the foregoing devises be sold by my Executors and all my just debts be paid and the balance to be given to my Daughter Mary Ann Singletary for her and her Childrens use.
Sixthly I desire my much esteemed Friends Joseph Singletary Senr. and Richard Singletary be and they are constituted and appointed Executors to this my last Will & Testament.
Seventhly I desire my friends James A. Bullock and Crayton Singletary to act as Guardians to and for my minor children to controle their persons and property.
This September 19th 1867 Bartly Wynn seal
Signed Sealed and published by Bartly Wynn as his Last Will and Testament in the presence of us the undersigned who subscribed our names hereto in the presence of said Testator at his special instance and request and in the presence of each other This September 19th 1867 Sarah A. Smith John H. Elkins Georgia Ann (her mark X)Wynn Nancy (her mark X) Elkins James H. Hayes
**************************** 4 March 1868, Will probated in common form, Will Book H, p. 227 28 March 1868, Inventory and appraisment, Inventory and Appraisment Book I, p. 54 6 July 1868, Leave to sell perishable property, 1860-1873 Minutes Book I, p. 579 28 July 1868, Account sales, 1855-1868 Account Sales Book H, p. 475 30 July 1868, Returns, 1869-1870 Returns Book R, p. 184 5 October 1868, Leave to sell real estate, 1860-1873 Minutes Book I, p. 595 6 April 1869, Final settlement, 1863-1875 Final Returns Book I, p. 164 6 August 1869, Leave to sell homestead property granted to widow, 1860-1873 Minutes Book I, p. 655 14 August 1869, Leave to sell homestead property, 1860-1873 Minutes Book I, p. 664
**************************** The 1860 census shows that the value of Bartley Wynn's real estate was $3500 and the value of his real property was $1000.
When the Inventory and Appraisal of Bartley Wynn's Estate was made 28 March 1868, Thomas Co., GA (Book I, p. 54-55), he owned the following land: Acres�tab�Lot�tab��tab�District�tab� Value 202 ��tab�294�tab��tab�17 �tab��tab�$250.00 84 �tab�295 �tab� 17 �tab��tab�25.00 123�tab�268�tab��tab�17�tab��tab�100.00 202 ��tab�167�tab��tab�17�tab��tab�750.00
In addition, his estate had a lot of Notes and Accounts from the following persons: Henry Atkinson, Goldin Jackson, Tharpe Spence, Lewis M. Thompson, H. Ligon, Sampson Johnson, L.N. Griffin, George Colvin, M.W. Cooper, W.A. Tate, W.T. Cannon, Wm. White, L.C. Cannon, Jerry Terrill, E.J.W. McMillan, Wade Willis, Henry Singletary, Joseph Singletary, J.F. Singletary, S.M. Griffin, J.E.B. Carter, H.J. Hawsar, George Farrell, J. Harrison, James Brinson, James Griffin, Wm. E. Cannon, M.W. Baggett, W.S. Thompson and E. Lastinger. Notes were mostly made in 1861 with a few in 1862, 1864 and 1866.
Source: Gervaise Wynn Perdue, from a letter she composed to Wynn researchers on March 14, 1992.
In total, the estate was appraised at $2443.73 to include land, farm implements, food stores, crops and personal property.
Bartley's grandchildren by Rebecca, his first wife, inherited $40 between them. His nine children, by Rebecca, were not provided for with the exception of Carentha (Wynn) Tilly and Mary Ann (Wynn) Singletary. David W. and Priscilla (Wynn) Thompson and Lewis M. and Louisa (Wynn) Thompson moved to Florida after Bartley deceased.
Carentha (Wynn) Tilly received $100, a cow and calf. Mary Ann (Wynn) Singletary and her children were given the balance remaining from selling 582 acres of Bartley's land (less the tract given to Gatsy) after all just debts were paid by the Executors of the will. This land was appraised at $1125.00.
The will provided 125 acres, and the receipts from selling livestock, surplus harvest and the household and farm items, to Gatsy Ann (Elkins) Wynn and her seven children, an amount that should be close to $1200.00.
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Land Records,
Moved to Jefferson County Florida before 1830.
Book E Land Deeds Jefferson Co., Fla no. 9058 (Premphon 1841) Received office at Tallahassee FL in 1847 from Bartley Wynn of Jefferson Co. Fla 200.00 being in full for SW quarter of fractional Section #21 in Township #3 of Range #6 N & E containing 160 ac @ 1.25 per acre Signed John W. Argyle, Receiver
19 Apr 1847 Book E Land Deeds Jefferson Co., Fla Between Levi Johnson on first part & Bartly Wynn on secon part Jefferson Co. for 108.00 Bartly pd for E half of SE qtr of Sec #20 in Township #3 Range #6 North & East of 80 ac Witness W.V. Ramsey Levi Johnson Richard B. Ramsey
Patentee: BARTLEY WYNN State: FLORIDA County: JEFFERSON Acres: 160 Metes/Bounds: No Issue Date: 8/10/1850 Land Office: Tallahassee Cancelled: No Mineral Reservations: No Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566) Document Nr.: 9058 Accession/Serial Nr.: FL0190__.490 BLM Serial Nr.: FL NO S/N
There is a State of Florida Tract Book Record for John P. Wynn, 1834, Jefferson County, August 20, 1834 for 159 1/2 acres in the NW1/4 of Section 30, Township 2N, Range 5E.
*********************************** Slave Owner Name Home in 1850 (City,County,State)
Thomas B Wynn District 81, Thomas, Georgia
Slave Information
Age Gender Race
55 Male 43 Male 43 Male 32 Male 30 Male 28 Male 26 Male 24 Male 23 Male 19 Male 18 Male 15 Male 15 Male 15 Male 13 Male
Source: 1850 Slave Index
*********************************** From: Gervaise [gperdue@mindspring.com] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 7:22 PM To: geoffrey.thompson@sbcglobal.net Subject: Bartley Wynn
You need to email me privately with explicit information you seek. I, too, "suspect" that Bartley Wynn could have been a son of William Wynn, Sr. (1760-1840's), and a brother of my William Wynn, Jr. (1790-1870). I have Bartley's first marriage in Wilkinson County, GA, and his records in Thomas County and Florida. I am extremely busy right now because I am moving from my beautiful home (since 1957) to a retirement place, where I will live independently, but if needed, they have beautiful assisted care rooms, skilled nursing care units, and alzheimer's units. So, getting rid of a lifetime of genealogical research, furniture, this and that, is a very traumatic thing for me. So, put my email address down and contact me after I move in January or February. Also, you should contact me soon because I think I will change my carrier and email address. I am getting 50-60 spam emails daily...some so filthy and there is no way to get rid of it, although I have a spam killer! Gervaise Wynn Perdue
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According to my records your Oscar Wynn was the second son of John Green Wynn and his first wife Sarah Catherine Mills. John Greene Wynn was the son of Bartley Wynn (b.1793 d.1868) and his second wife Gatsey Elkin.There has been at time in researching Bartley's name that some have said his first name was either John or William. In all legal records recorded he always refered to himseld as Bartley so we will probably never know. Where you might find the confusion is John Green also had a brother named Russell Bartley, however, he went by the name Bartley. He was married to a Nancy Mize.
I have in the last 30 years done extensive research on this line to ensure I have the right line. At the same time for a while also living in Thomas Co. was another individual names John Winn which as also confused people. Following is some of the information I have collected on Bartley and John Green Wynn
Bartley Wynn---- Bartley is alledged to have been a minister and also a farmer. The WYNNS apparently lived in Jefferson Co., FL. before moving to Thomas Co, GA. Probate and administative records indicate this. In correspondance with SUSAN STEPHENS of Bloomingdale,GA on the WYNN family. According to BARTLEY's will which was drawn up by him on SEPT 19, 1867 and executed on MARCH 4 1868 in Thomas Co., GA.
According to the book Gleanings of Grady County mentioned under the family listing of Gay Bird Coleman on 15 Oct 1865 Bartley is listed as one of the trustees in a land deed for the Pleasant Grove Church. Thisdeed can be found in the Thomas County Deed Book BB, Pg 210, the lot deeded is Lot 216 District 17. Another contact is Desta Dyal of Hampton, Florida (descendent of Louisa Wynn). Another contact is Louisa Snowden of Cairo, GA (descendent of John Green Wynn). Corresponded with Gervaise Wynn Perdue of Warner Robbins, GA who is writting a book on theWynn family reference Wynn information with her stamp.
Bartley Wynn is identified as the Administrator of Burrell Taylor's estate in Thomas County dated Jul 1855. Isaac Spence is also mentioned in it.
John Green Wynn--- John was married to Sarah Catherine Mills 29 April 1874 in Thomas County Sarah Mills b. 10/9/1857 d.11/27/1906 buried on Grady County, Bold Spring Cem. Contact Anne Louise Snowden, 2087 Pine Park Rd, Cairo, GA 31728(she is the g-granddaughter of Bartley Wynn). She said she has found land records connecting Bartley with Appling Co. More information forthcoming.
John and Catherine appear in the 1880 census of Cairo, Thomas, GA with their 3 children. John is listed as a farmer.
John and Catherine Wynn appear in the 1900 census of Cairo, Thomas, GA with 7 of their children. John is listed as a farmer.
John appears in the 1910 census of Cairo, Grady, GA as a widow and four of his children. He is listed as a farmer.
John and Lettie Wynn appear in the 1920 census of Cairo, Grady, GA with their children. Lettie is John G. Wynn's second wife. John is listed as a farmer.
John and Lettie Wynn appear in the 1930 census of Cairo, Grady, GA with their children. John is listed as a farmer.
I hope this helps you and I would be happy to share further information with so don't be afraid to ask. Be blessed Bill Haag
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