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Continued: John Frederick-Jude moved from Pike Co., Kentucky to Floyd Co. Kentucky between 1850 and 1860 or about 1855. He had different neighbors in 1860 than he had previously in 1850. He moved from Floyd Co., KY to Lower John's Creek in Pike Co. KY in about 1875 because he did not have the same neighbors in 1870 and 1880.
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Fact 1: 1810 "John Jude" included 2 sons under 10 in the Surry Co., NC census Fact 2: 1820 "Polly Jude" included 2 sons as 10-15 in the Grayson Co. VA census Fact 3: 1830 "John Jude" was listed on the Pike County Kentucky census Fact 4: 1840 "John Jude" was listed on the Pike County Kentucky census Fact 5: 28 Aug 1850 "John Fredric" was listed on the Pike County Kentucky census #479 Fact 6: 25 Jul 1860 "John Frederick" was listed on the Floyd County Kentucky census #329 Fact 7: 25 Aug 1870 "John Jude" was listed on the Floyd County Kentucky census #107 Fact 8: 18 Jun 1880 "John Federick" was listed on the Pike County Kentucky census #13
John Jude, II was also known as John Frederick, II. His parents were John Jude and Mary "Polly" (Stotts) of the New River Valey in Virginia.
The 1810 Surry Co., NC census shows the household for "John Jude" included males: 2 <10, 1 10-15, 1 = or >45 and females: 1 = or >45. Consequently, John Jude and his wife Mary, also known as Polly, were both born before 1765. They had two sons John and Peter who were born between 1801 and 1810 or about 1805 and another son Martin who was born between 1795 and 1800 or about 1798. John Jude's nearest neighbor was Peter Stotts. The census shows the household for "Peter Stots" included males: 1 = or >45 and females: 1 <10, 1 16-25, 1 = or >45. Consequently, Peter Stotts and his wife were both born before 1765.
The 1820 Grayson Co., VA census shows the household for "Polly Jude" included males: 2 10-15, 1 16-25 and females: 1 = or >45. Consequently, Polly was born on or before 1775 and her oldest son Martin was born between 1795 and 1804 or about 1800 and her other sons John and Peter were born between 1805 and 1810 or about 1808. When Polly's son Peter married in Pike Co., KY in 1831, "Mary Frederick" gave permission for her son "Peter Frederick" to get married. Polly is a nickname for Mary.
1830 Pike Co., KY census shows John Jude males: 1 <5, 1 20-29 and females: 1 5-9, 1 15-19. Consequently, John was born between 1801 and 1810 or about 1805.
1840 Pike Co. KY census John Jude males: 1 <5, 2 5-9, 1 40-49 and females: 2<5, 1 20-29. Consequently, this census indicates John was born between 1791 and 1800 or about 1795. However, later censuses shows he was born about 10 years later. So, the enumerator checked the wrong box for the correct age bracket.
1850 Pike Co., KY census August 28
No. 479 John Frederic 37* VA [born 1813] Priscilla [Rutherford] 37 KY Sarah 16 VA Mary 14 VA Martin 12 VA Joseph 8 KY Hiram 6 KY Dicey 5 KY Nancy 3 KY Mary A. 6/12
* The age indicated on this census was incorrect and John was about ten years older than the age indicated on the census. Instead of showing 37, the census taker should have written 47.
No. 480 Nathan Frederic 21 KY Mary [Blankenship] 12 KY
1860 Floyd Co., KY census July 25 Post Office: Prestonsburg
No. 329 John Frederick 57 VA [born 1803] Priscilla [Rutherford] 42 KY Eliza Jane Williams 15 KY Mary Frederick 12 KY Hiram 7 KY Joseph 19 KY Margarette 21 KY
John Frederick-Jude moved from Pike Co., KY to Floyd Co. KY between 1850 and 1860 or about 1855. He did not have the same neighbors in 1850 and 1860.
1870 Floyd Co., KY census August 25 Post Office: Prestonsburg
No. 107 Jude, John 62 NC [born 1808] Priscilla [Rutherford] 57 KY Tiller, Brittan 28 VA Mary A. 23 KY Nancy J. KY Tiller, Allen 25 KY Rachael 1 KY
1880 Pike Co., KY census June 8 Lower John's Precinct No. 5.
No. 13 Frederick John 76 [bornn 1804] NC, Germany, VA Priscilla [Rutherford] wife 66 KY, VA, KY Tiller Britt 38 son in law WV, VA, VA Tiller Mary Anne 30 daughter KY, KY, NC Nancy Jane 10 granddaughter KY, WV, KY Eliza Jane 8 granddaughter KY, WV, KY John 5 grandson KY, WV, KY Hezekiah 4 grandson KY, WV, KY Polly 1 granddaughter KY, WV, KY
John Frederick-Jude moved from Floyd Co., KY to Lower John's Creek in Pike Co. KY in about 1875 because he did not have the same neighbors in 1870 and 1880.
John's year of birth was listed differently on the census records as follows:
1810 about 1805 1820 about 1808 1830 about 1805 1840 about 1795* 1850 born 1813* 1860 born 1803 1870 born 1808 1880 born 1804
* As previously mentioned the age indicated on the 1840 census incorrectly showed John was born between 1791 and 1800 or about 1795. This was incorrect and should have been about 1805. Also, as previously mentioned the age indicated on the 1850 census incorrectly showed John was 37 and born about 1813. This was also incorrect and the census taker probably should have written his age as 47 and born about 1803.
Considering all the ages indicated on the different census records, a good estimation of his year of birth was about 1805.
According to oral family history the earliest member of the Jude family who came to the Tug River Valley of Central Appalachia was John Jude who was also known as John Frederick. He came to eastern Kentucky before 1825 with renowned pioneer Moses Stepp from the New River Valley. John's brothers Martin and Peter also used the alias surname Frederick. Their father John Jude was identified on the 1810 Surry Co., North Carolina census and according to that census he was born before 1765. The New River flows through Surry County, NC. John's nearest neighbor was Peter Stotts who was probably a brother or son of John Stotts. John Jude died before the 1820 census when his wife Mary or "Polly" Jude was identified on the 1820 Grayson County, Virginia census which suggests John Jude died about 1815. In 1825 Mary was identified as "Mary Frederick" when she gave permission for her son "John Frederick" to get married in Pike Co., KY. Since Mary was no longer using the Jude surname and was using a different surname, it implies she married again to a man whose surname was Frederick. Since Mary gave permission for her son John to get married in 1825, it suggests John was under 21 when he was married which suggests he was born after 1804 and subequentWhen her son John was listed on the 1880 Pike Co., KY census as "John Frederick", he indicated that his father was born in Germany. He was likely referring to his step father which supports the theory his mother married an unidentified German immigrant with the surname Frederick or "Friedrich" after her husband John Jude had died. In order to honor their stepfather, John and his brothers Martin and Peter used their stepfather's surname as their own, but most of their descendants eventually switched back to their original surname which was Jude.
The Jude family was closely associated with the family of John Stotts who was a Revolutionary War veteran who also came from the New River Valley. John Stotts was born in 1750 since he stated on his pension application in 1829 that he was about 80 years old. In 1825 when John Frederick or Jude married Martha "Pasty" Boney in Pike Co., KY, the witnesses included John Stotts and John Stotts' stepsons Silas P. Ooten and Levi Ooten. John Stotts had married his second wife "Anne Whootan" in Surry Co., NC before they came to the Tug River Valley. Due to the close association between John Stotts and the Jude family, it is logical to conclude John Stotts was probably the grandfather of John Frederick or Jude and explains why he was a witness on the marriage record which implies he was probably also the father of John Frederick or Jude's mother Mary. Martha "Patsy" Boney was a daughter of a French Huguenot immigrant named Joseph Boner/Boney who was first married to Sally Stotts before he later married Martha's mother Sarah Mullins. Sally Stotts was probably a daughter of John Stotts.
Also, John Jude and his wife Mary had a son who was named Peter. It is likely the source for Peter's name was Peter Stotts who was probably the brother or uncle to Mary and as previously mentioned was their closest neighbor on the 1810 Surry Co., NC census. Peter Frederick or Jude married Mary "Polly" (Roberts) Collins in 1831 who was probably a widow and had married an unidentified man with the surname Collins. She was listed on the 1830 Pike Co., KY census as "Polly Collins" and her nearest neighbor was Margaret Stotts who was possibly the widow of John Stotts, II. One of her other closest neighbors was John Frederick or Jude who was listed as "John Jude". Other close neighbors included Levi Ooten and his brother Jordan Ooten who were the stepsons of John Stotts. Mary was the daughter of Jacob Roberts and Olive "Ollie" Stotts. Olive was a sister of John Stotts and their parents were Andrew Stotts and his wife Mary whose maiden name is unknown. Andrew Stotts fought in the Revolutionary War from Montgomery Co., VA and he was also a veteran of Lord Dunmore's War. His name is recorded as early as 1771 when he was included on the List of Tithables for Botetourt Co., VA. He was last listed in 1797 on a deed filed in Wythe Co., Virginia when he and his wife Mary granted property to their son John Stotts. Since this was the last document recorded for Andrew and Mary and since they were getting older and transferred their land to their oldest son, they probably died soon afterwards or about 1800. Andrew's surname has also been found spelled as STOT, STOLZ, STOTT and STOOT. His descendants' names have been found spelled as STOTTS or STOOTS.
A summary of the Frederick or Jude family is found below:
There are primarily two major branches of the JUDE family in America. According to census records, one branch emigrated from Ireland to America and arrived in the state of Maine before eventually settling in the state of Minnesota. The other considerably larger branch appears to have English origins and eventually settled along the Tug River Valley in Eastern Kentucky and Southwestern West Virginia. This branch is known as the FREDERICK or JUDE family. Even though the surname JUDE is the original surname of the FREDERICK or JUDE family of the Tug River Valley, the surname FREDERICK was used as an alias by this family for approximately 100 years between 1820 and 1920 before this family finally decided to permanently switch back to using the original JUDE surname. The FREDERICK surname is German and was originally spelled "FRIEDRICH". Sources suggest JUDE may be English. Early records from the seventeenth century show a high concentration of the JUDE family located near the city of Newcastle upon Tyne, which today is known as Newcastle and is one of England's largest cities. It is located in the county of Northumberland, which is England's most northern county. Even though there are records showing the JUDE surname in other parts of England, it appears the JUDE family of Northumberland are the progenitors of the JUDE family that eventually settled in America along the Tug River Valley of Eastern Kentucky and Southwestern West Virginia. These descendants can trace their origins to the three sons of John JUDE, Sr. who was born before 1765. Those sons included John FREDERICK or JUDE, Jr., Martin & Peter. More specifically, those members of the JUDE family who live or have relatives in Martin County, Kentucky, are descendants of John, Jr. He was a renowned pioneer of the Tug River Valley born about 1800 somewhere in the New River Valley, possibly in Surry Co., North Carolina.
There is not very much information about John Jr's parents. They lived in the New River Valley and their names were John Jude and Mary (Stotts) who was also known as Polly. Apparently, John, Sr. died while his children were quite young and his widow remarried an unidentified German immigrant whose last name was FREDERICK or FRIEDRICH. John Jr's biological father, John JUDE, Sr., is recorded on the 1810 Surry Co., NC census as John JUDE. This is the earliest record found that pertains to this family in America. According to this record, John was listed as more than 45 years old indicating he was born before 1765. Ten years later, John Sr's widow, Mary or "Polly" is recorded on the 1820 Grayson Co., VA census as "Polly Jude". She was listed on this census as head of the household which indicates her husband may have died before the census was taken in 1820. Grayson Co., VA and Surry Co., NC are neighboring counties and the New River flows through Grayson County. Also, both censuses indicated there were three sons. Those three sons would have been John, Jr. and his brothers Martin & Peter.
Since Polly's new husband helped to raise her sons after her husband died, all three brothers assumed their stepfather's FREDERICK surname. Martin's descendants continue to use the surname FREDERICK. Peter did not use the FREDERICK surname very long and suddenly switched back to JUDE and his descendants continue to use the surname JUDE. Information suggests that John, Jr. assumed his stepfather's FREDERICK surname between 1820 and 1825 and according to legend, he came to Eastern Kentucky from the New River Valley area of Virginia and the Carolinas with fellow traveler Moses Stepp. Even though John, Jr. assumed his stepfather's surname, he apparently became closely associated with the family of Revolutionary War veteran Moses STEPP, who was another renowned pioneer of the Tug River Valley. In fact, one source states John, Jr. was considered a foster son of Moses STEPP. The exact reason for this close relationship has not yet been confirmed, but there may be a connection through the Jackson family suggesting John Jr. may have been related to Moses' wife Sally (Jackson) Stepp. In fact, according to noted family historian Clyde "Cecil" Fields, John Jude was "a son of a Jackson and was related to President Andrew Jackson". If the preceding quote was referring to John's mother, then Moses' wife Sally could have been John's aunt on his mother's side. This would suggest that Sally and Mary were sisters and Mary's maiden name was Mary "Polly" Jackson. According to family tradition, John Jr. often traveled with Moses Stepp into the wilderness looking for new hunting grounds and it was on one of these hunting trips that they came to Eastern Kentucky. Even though John, Jr. assumed the FREDERICK surname in about 1825, most of his descendants did not decide to permanently change their surname back to Jude until about one hundred years later.
John, Jr. became a lumberjack. He was a large man who was well known for his enormous strength and his exceptional skills in this occupation. Stories have been handed down for many generations describing his participation in various occupational endeavors including barn raisings. He was also a very competitive person and was very active in barrel lifting contests and even fighting with bears. Also, whenever he was challenged to a brawl he would never refuse to participate and gained a reputation for his fearless determination and strong will. This trait has become part of John Jr's legacy and anyone who is familiar with this family, knows how prevalent it is among his descendants.
Using his skills as a lumberjack, John, Jr. settled the brushy, pristine wilderness of southern Martin County, KY along Wolf Creek. Due to his fierce determination, he was able to prosper in a very rugged environment and established strong ties within his community. In addition to his association with Moses STEPP, he also established strong ties with the family of James RUTHERFORD and became a large landowner and raised a large family with several members who married in the RUTHERFORD family. Later, the family of Civil War Veteran Isaac MAYNARD, Sr. became closely associated with the JUDE family. The MAYNARD family was the largest family in the area and maintained a very close relationship with the JUDE family. In fact, Isaac MAYNARD, Sr. had 5 children who married in the JUDE family including three of Isaac's daughters who married grandsons of John, Jr as well as one son who married a granddaughter of John, Jr. and another son who married a great-granddaughter of John, Jr. The MAYNARD and JUDE families have maintained a very close relationship for more than 100 years, which has also resulted in many other intermarriages among these two families. The last time John FREDERICK or JUDE, Jr. appeared on a census was in 1880. On the 1880 Pike Co., KY census, he was recorded as "John Frederick" and stated that his father was born in Germany. Since FREDERICK is a German surname, John, Jr. was probably referring to his stepfather.
Even though most of the descendants of John FREDERICK or JUDE, Jr. use the JUDE surname, there is one branch of this family who continues to use the FREDERICK surname Apparently, John FREDERICK or JUDE, IV, son of John FREDERICK or JUDE, III and Sarah "Sally" RUTHERFORD, was involved in a family altercation and moved away from his family in Martin Co. and settled just west of Martin Co., KY in Morgan Co., KY near the Licking River and kept the FREDERICK surname.
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