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Family
Marriage: Children:
  1. Joanna Cramer: Birth: JUL 1859.

  2. Martin L. Cramer: Birth: ABT 1862.

  3. Caroline Capitola Cramer: Birth: 1863 OR MAY 1864.

  4. Mary C Cramer: Birth: ABT 1865.

  5. Eve Laura or Emma Cramer: Birth: ABT 1865.

  6. Estella or Anna Cramer: Birth: 1866 OR 1867.

  7. Delilah or Delia Cramer: Birth: ABT 1868.

  8. Alice P Cramer: Birth: ABT 1872.

  9. Leah B Cramer: Birth: ABT 1874.

  10. Editha Iveyva Cramer: Birth: NOV 1879.

  11. Maurice Cramer: Birth: DEC 1885.


Notes
a. Note:   12 on 1850 census and in school. http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/6034381/person/-761152797?ssrc= has her Carolline Harriet Wise, daughter of Jacob Wise and Joanna S Wise both b 1806. Lived in Highspire, Dauphin, PA in 1850.
  Has her marriage record; Caroing H Wise. Marriage in Harrisburg, at Zion German Lutheran Church. Says she's of Harrisburg, and he's of York? Gork? Don't see proof this is the same person. Says she married Mr. Henry L. Cramer, not Craner.
  12 on 1850 census and in school. As Harriet.
  Named in Jacob's willl; Henrietta Caroline. She married Henry C, E or G Cramer. Or L. Cramer.
  In 1880 census, Henry L. Cramer, aged 49, b abt 1831 PA, farmer, b PA. Home Codorus, York, PA. Wife Caroline H. Cramer. Her parents b Switzerland and PA. Children Joanna E, 20, teacher. M.L. son, laboer, 3? C. Capitata? F, servant. Hard to read. M.L. 18 C. Capitola 17 Mary C. 15 Eve Laura 15 Estella 13 Deliah D. 11 Alice P. 8 Leah B. 6 Edetha Iveyva 2
  Henry also lived in Codorus in 1863; he registered for the Civil War draft.
  1870 Codorus.
  H L Carmer, 40. Caroline Carmer 29 Joanna Cramer 11 Martin 8 Caroline 7 Mary 5 Emma 5 Anna 4 Delia 2.
  One death record has him died 29 Nov 1873, York, but obvoiusly he was living in 1880/.
  Findagreave has him born 1830, died at age 82, 1912. Glen Rock, York Co, PA. Has Caroline H b March 1839.
  Mike Mayes found a marriage record for Carolline Harriet Wise and Henry Lehman Cramer at a Lutheran church in Highspire . I hadn't known there was a Lutheran church in Highspire. He suspected thta Carolline Harriet Wise and Harriet Caroline Weiss were the same person.
  1900 census. Baltimore Ward 17, Baltimore City, Maryland.
  Henry L. Cramer, 70 born May 1830 church sexton. Caroline Carmer 69? 67? born March 1839. married 42 years. 11 children, 9 still living. parents b PA Capitola Cramer 26, f, b May 1874? book keeper Edith Cramer 20 b Nov 1879 book keeper Maurice Cramer 41 b Dec 1885 in Maryland Joanna Karge 40 daughter, b Jul 1859 in Maryland. dress maker. Alice Karge 6. granddaughter b Aug 1893 in New Jersey. Father b NJ
  Marriage from Pennsylvania Church and Town Records, 7108 to 1985. Caroling H Wise and Henry L Craner. She was of Harrisburg, and he was of York.
  In 1870 I couldn't find htem. In 1880 father b Switzerland, father b PA. in 1900 both parents b PA. In 1910 father b Switzerland and mother born Germany.
  WRONG HENRY KRAMER: 1920. Henry Kramer, widowed, 87, b abt 1833, Germany, Baltimore Ward 3. parents b Germany (his own) Elizabeth, daughter, who was b 1873, lived with him.
  In 1930, Caroline lived in Baltimore, with son in law Mansdorfer, George W, daughter Deliah, age 62, and grandson George B., 26. George b abt 1904.
  In 1932 Caroline was buried in York Co PA,
  Death from online Baltimore death index, at Maryland state archives or whatever. Her grave is at Findagrave.com, and it has her birth year as 1840, which is incorrect according to 1900 census. Certificate number E81701. Baltimore, Maryland. July 27, 1832.
  In 1860, she is married, 21, living in York County. In 1880 it says her father b Switzerland and her mother b PA. 1900 both parents born PA. 1910 adn 1930, it says father born Switzerland, mother born Germany, which corresponds to Johanna Susanna.


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