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  1. Heloise de Mondoubleau: Birth: 1080 in Mondoubleau, Loir-et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France. Death: ABT 1154

  2. Guiburge de Mondoubleau: Birth: ABT 1091 in Mondoubleau, Loir-et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France.


Sources
1. Title:   Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge. [European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series.]
Page:   XIII 111
Source:   SR224
Author:   Detlev Schwennicke (Editor)
Publication:   J. A. Stargardt
2. Title:   Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Page:   Central France, Chapter 4. Comtes de Chateaudun, D. Seigneurs de Mondoubleau (Freteval)
Source:   SR197
Publication:   http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/
3. Title:   Leo van de Pas: Genealogics Website
Source:   SR109
Author:   Leo van de Pas
Publication:   www

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  Chapter 4. COMTES de CHÂTEAUDUN B.      SEIGNEURS de MONDOUBLEAU (FRETEVAL)
  ILBERT [Pagan] de Fréteval, son of NIVELON [II] [Paganus] de Fréteval & his wife Helvise de Mondoubleau (before [1042/44]-[1110]).  "…Ilberti filii Nivelonis, Fulcherii fratris eius, Girardi fratris eius…" signed the charter dated to [1046/64] under which "Gelduinus…vicecomes" donated a serf to Marmoutier[828].  "Hamelinus de Longiaco, pariterque uxor mea…Helviza, filia Odonis Dublelli" donated "[ecclesiam] Sancte Marie…Tufiacum" to the church of Saint-Vincent du Mans, for the soul of "Hugonis Dublelli minoris filii…Odonis Dublelli" who was buried at Saint-Vincent, with the consent of "filii nostri Wauterii et filie nostre Hersendis, meique privigni…Ilberti qui fuit filius Pagani", by charter dated to [1067/74][829].  Seigneur de Mondoubleau.  A charter dated 28 Oct 1084 records the reparations made by "comes Burchardus filius Fulconis Vindocinensis" to La Trinité de Vendôme for a judgment against the abbey, witnessed by "Radulfus vicecomes, Fulcherius de Fractavalle, Paganus de Montedublello…"[830].  A charter dated 1085 before 6 Aug recalls the donation by "Nivelo Nivelonis filius", husband of "filiam Odonis Dublelli quondam Montis Dublelli domini", to La Trinité de Vendôme and the confirmation by "filius…Nivelo…cognomento Paganus", witnessed by "Burchardo comite…"[831].  "Ildebertus cognomento Paganus filius predicte Helvise" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Vincent after he recovered "Montem Dublellum" by charter dated to [1080/1103][832].  A charter dated to end-11th century records that "Paganus de Monte Dublelli" relinquished claims against the church of Saint-Vincent du Mans relating to property "apud Tufiacum"[833].  [m firstly ---.  No proof of this first marriage has been found.  However, the wording of the charter which names Ilbert and his wife Aiga suggests that the latter was not the mother of his daughter Guitburge, pointing to an earlier marriage.]  m [secondly] AIGA, daughter of ---.  "Paganus de Monte Dublelli et Aia uxor sua" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Vincent with the consent of "Wiburgis supradicti Pagani filia" by charter dated to the end of the 11th century[834].  "Aiga uxor Pagani de Monte Dublelli" consented to the donation by "Salomon vicarius…cum filia eius Papina" to the abbey of Saint-Vincent dated to [1100][835].  Ilbert & his [first] wife had [five] children: 
  1.         HELVISE (-[1154]).  The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.   Dame de Mondoubleau.  "Gaufrido vicecomite, Helvisa uxore eius, Hugone filio eius, Alpez et Helvisa filiabus eius…" witnessed an undated charter which records a donation by "Arnulfus de Semblentiaco", after he had died as a monk, to the church of Saint-Vincent du Mans[836].  Her first marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which "Gaufridum vicecomitem Castriduni" confirmed the donation by "cuidam militia suo…qui erat de progenie uxoris sue Helvise, Ernulfo…de Semblentiaco" to the church of Saint-Vincent du Mans[837].  "Uxor eius Helvisis et duo filii eius Hugo et Paganus cum duabus sororibus eorum Alpasia et Helvise" consented to the donation by "Gaufredus vicecomes Castriduni" by charter dated 1125[838].  "Gaufridus vicecomes Castriduni et Helvisa uxor eius et Hugo et Paganus filii eius et dua filia eius Alpes et Helvisa" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité de Tiron by charter dated 1129[839].  "Gaufridus Castridunensis vicecomes et eius...uxor Helvisa" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité de Tiron, with the consent of “filiis et filiabus suis...Hugone, Huberto, Aupeza, Heloisa”, by charter dated 1133, witnessed by “...Guillelmus de Porcheria nepos Heloisse vicecomitisse...Agnes soror vicecomitisse”[840].  "Goffridus vicecomes Castridunensis et dominus Montisdublelli et Helvisa uxor mea" confirmed "ecclesiam…Sancti Petri de Curte-Magnonis" to La Trinité de Vendôme by charter dated 1 Dec 1134, later consented to by "primogenitus filius noster Hugo, Isbertus Paganus, et filie nostre Alpet, Helvisa et Mahildis"[841].  A charter dated 1145 records that Geoffroy Bishop of Chartres had excommunicated "Gaufridum Castriduni vicecomitem et filios eius Hugonem et Paganum et castrum eorum", but that on his deathbed “apud Carnotum” had become a monk at Tiron Sainte-Trinité and that “uxor eius Helois vicecomitissa et filius eorum Hugo” had made peace with the abbey[842].  m firstly --- de Semblency, son of ---.  m secondly GEOFFROY [III] Vicomte de Châteaudun, son of HUGUES Vicomte de Châteaudun & his wife Agnès de Fréteval (-Chartres 12 Apr [1140/45]).  2.         GUIBURGE .  "Paganus de Monte Dublelli et Aia uxor sua" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Vincent with the consent of "Wiburgis supradicti Pagani filia" by charter dated to the end of the 11th century[843].  The wording of this charter suggests that Aiga was not the mother of Guitburge, pointing to an earlier marriage of her father.  The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.  m BARTHELEMY "le Riche", son of GEOFFROY [Payen] & his wife --- (-[1148]).  He died on crusade.  3.         AGNES (-after 1133).  "Gaufridus Castridunensis vicecomes et eius...uxor Helvisa" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité de Tiron, with the consent of “filiis et filiabus suis...Hugone, Huberto, Aupeza, Heloisa”, by charter dated 1133, witnessed by “...Guillelmus de Porcheria nepos Heloisse vicecomitisse...Agnes soror vicecomitisse”[844].  4.         [--- .  It is not known whether the mother of Guillaume de Porcherie was Agnes who is named above.  m ---.]  One child:  a)         GUILLAUME de Porcherie (-after 1133).  "Gaufridus Castridunensis vicecomes et eius...uxor Helvisa" donated property to the abbey of Sainte-Trinité de Tiron, with the consent of “filiis et filiabus suis...Hugone, Huberto, Aupeza, Heloisa”, by charter dated 1133, witnessed by “...Guillelmus de Porcheria nepos Heloisse vicecomitisse...Agnes soror vicecomitisse”[845].  5.         [--- .  The identity of the parents of Guiburge [de Mondoubleau] is uncertain.  The chronology appears to dictate that Guiburge could not have been the same person as Guiburge, wife of Barthélemy "le Riche", who is shown above.  Firstly, Barthélemy is recorded with adult children at the time he died (dated to [1148]), meaning that it would have been impossible for his widow to have married Patrick [II] de Chaources as her second husband and extremely unlikely that she had married Barthélemy as her second husband after the death of Patrick [II].  Secondly, the birth date of Ilbert [Payen] Seigneur de Mondoubleau suggests that his children must have been born in the mid- to late 11th century, while there are indications that Pagan de Chaources (son of Guiburge [de Mondoubleau]) only reached the age of majority in the early 1150s.  For these reasons, it is more likely that Guiburge was a granddaughter of Ilbert, presumably born to one of the daughters who are named above.  If that is correct, the name Mondoubleau was passed through the female line twice to Guiburge´s son Pagan.]  m ---.  One child:  a)         GUIBURGE [de Mondoubleau] (-after 1151).  Her connection with the Mondoubleau family is indicated by her son adopting that name, but the precise parentage of Guiburge has not been ascertained.  A charter dated to [1142] records that Geoffroy Duke of Normandy and Comte d´Anjou donated “terciam partem…in decima de Bellasilva…de Pagano de Monte Dublello et de Guib[erta] matre eius que de feodo meo est” to Saint-Pierre de la Couture[846].  "Payen de Sourches et Guiburge sa mère" founded Tyronneau abbey at Saint-Aignan, canton of Marolles-les-Braux in 1151[847].  m PATRICK [II] de Chaources, son of PATRICK [I] de Chaources & his wife Matilda de Hesdin (-before [1142]).    [828] Grandmaison (1865), LI, p. 49.  [829] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 175, p. 105.  [830] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome II, CCCXIX, p. 25.  [831] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome II, CCCXXV, p. 36.  [832] Chartes Vendômoises LIX, p. 82.  [833] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 192, p. 121.  [834] Chartes Vendômoises LXII, p. 84.  [835] Chartes Vendômoises LXVI, p. 87.  [836] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 197, p. 124.  [837] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 198, p. 124.  [838] Marmoutier-Dunois, Cartæ Prioratuum Dunensium, CLXXVII, p. 169.  [839] Merlet, L. (ed.) (1883) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de la Sainte-Trinité de Tiron, Tome I ("Tiron Sainte-Trinité") CIX, p. 129.  [840] Tiron Sainte-Trinité, Tome I, CLXXXV, p. 207.  [841] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome II, CCCCLXXI, p. 262.  [842] Tiron Sainte-Trinité, Tome II, CCLXIX, p. 38.  [843] Chartes Vendômoises LXII, p. 84.  [844] Tiron Sainte-Trinité, Tome I, CLXXXV, p. 207.  [845] Tiron Sainte-Trinité, Tome I, CLXXXV, p. 207.  [846] Couture Saint-Pierre, LIV, p. 57.  [847] Société Historique et Archéologique de l´Orne (1889) Cartulaire de l´abbaye de Notre-Dame de la Trappe (Alençon) ("Notre-Dame de la Trappe"), p. 319, footnote 3, citing Cauvin Géographie ancienne du diocèse du Mans, pp. 202 and 529.  ------------

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