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Note: Heiress of her father, Nihard de Montoire.
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FMG: MAINE & VENDOME
Chapter 11. SEIGNEURS de MONTOIRE A. SEIGNEURS de MONTOIRE
PLACENTIA de Montoire (-after 10 Mar 1062). A charter dated 5 Dec 1059 records the sale to La Trinité de Vendôme of "ecclesiam...Longa-Ulmus", held by "Hugo Theodelini filius" from "Nihardi de Monte-Aureo", and notes that after the death of "Nihardi" he was succeeded “in honorem” by “Alberico...cum filia eius” whom he had married[852]. A charter dated 10 Mar 1062 records sales to La Trinité de Vendôme with the approval of "Nihardo de Monteaureo" and after his death "unicam filiam...Placentia"[853]. Her parentage is also suggested by "…Mathei de Monte Aureo, Drogonis fratris eius…" witnessing the charter dated to [1067/74], under which [her son-in-law] "Hamelinus de Longiaco, pariterque uxor mea…Helviza, filia Odonis Dublelli" donated "[ecclesiam] Sancte Marie…Tufiacum" to the church of Saint-Vincent du Mans[854]. Her first marriage is indicated by a charter dated 15 Jul 1081 which records the confirmation by "Hamelinus Galterii filius" of the churches of Gombergean and Lancôme by La Trinité de Vendôme with the approval of "Helvisa conjux ipsius, filia Odonis Dublelli quæ nata illi fuerat de uxore sua, filia...Nihardi de Monteaureo"[855]. The chronology of the charters quoted in this section and of her descendants dictates the order of Placentia´s marriages. m firstly EUDES de Doubleau Seigneur de Mondoubleau, son of HUGUES de Doubleau Seigneur de Mondoubleau & his wife Adela --- (-after 3 Jun 1040). m secondly (before 1059) ALBERIC de Montoire, son of --- (-after 1066). "Albericus de Monte-aureo…Matheus de Monte-aureo, Drogo frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated 1066 under which "Fulconem comitem Vindocinensem", on his deathbed, donated rights to Marmoutier[856]. [852] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CXXVIII, p. 229. [853] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CLIV, p. 267. [854] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 175, p. 105. [855] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome II, CCCII, p. 7. [856] Marmoutier-Vendômois, LXXXVI, p. 134.
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FMG: MAINE & VENDOME
Chapter 10. SEIGNEURS de MONDOUBLEAU A. SEIGNEURS de MONDOUBLEAU
EUDES de Doubleau, son of HUGUES de Doubleau Seigneur de Mondoubleau & his wife Adela --- (-after 3 Jun 1040). Eudes Comte de Chartres confirmed the donation to Le Mans Saint-Vincent of the church “in proprio castro, quod ab ipsius cognomine Mons-Dublelli vocatur”, which “fidelium nostrorum Hugo...cognomento Dublellus” had made with the consent of “venerandæ memoriæ Fulbverti Carnotenæ urbis episcopi” for his own soul and those of “filiorum suorum...Hugonis archidiaconi atque Odonis necnon et Hervei”, adding that “tribuit...præfatus Hugo clericis in jam-dicta ecclesia” with the consent of “Gisleberti et Elgaudi eius filii”, by charter dated to [1030], signed by “Odonis comitis, Gaufridi vicecomitis, Hugonis Dublelli, Hugonis archidiaconi, Hervei filii Hugonis, Gisleberti, Elgaudi...”[813]. "Hugo" donated property "in pago Vindocinensi…in villa…Buziacus" to Marmoutier, by charter dated to before 1040, signed by "Hugonis archidiaconis filii eius, Odonis filii eius, Hervei filii eius, Gausfredi filii eius, item filii eius Gisleberti…"[814]. Seigneur de Mondoubleau. "Hugo archidiaconus cognomento Dublellus et Odo frater eius" donated "ecclesiam Sancti-Beati confessoris" to La Trinité de Vendôme by charter dated to before 1040[815]. "Hugo Dublellus archidiaconus et Odo Dublellus frater eius" donated "ecclesiam Sancti-Beati" to La Trinité de Vendôme, in the presence of "Haimerico genero Symonis de Lavarzino", by charter dated 3 Jun 1040, which names his son "Hugonis" (adding that he was granted "honorem de Montedublello" by Geoffroy "Martel" Comte d´Anjou after his father died), "Hamelinus de Langeia" (who succeeded after the death of Hugues) and "eius uxor Adriena, soror Hugonis", "Fredescendis filia Odonis Dublelli uxor Nivelongis Pagani, filii Nivelonis de Carnoto" (who wanted to rescind the donation after her husband was killed)[816]. m as her first husband, PLACENTIA de Montoire, daughter of NIHARD de Montoire & his wife ---. She married secondly Alberic. A charter dated 5 Dec 1059 records the sale to La Trinité de Vendôme of "ecclesiam...Longa-Ulmus", held by "Hugo Theodelini filius" from "Nihardi de Monte-Aureo", and notes that after the death of "Nihardi" he was succeeded “in honorem” by “Alberico...cum filia eius” whom he had married[817]. A charter dated 10 Mar 1062 records sales to La Trinité de Vendôme with the approval of "Nihardo de Monteaureo" and after his death "unicam filiam...Placentia"[818]. Her parentage is also suggested by "…Mathei de Monte Aureo, Drogonis fratris eius…" witnessing the charter dated to [1067/74], under which [her son-in-law] "Hamelinus de Longiaco, pariterque uxor mea…Helviza, filia Odonis Dublelli" donated "[ecclesiam] Sancte Marie…Tufiacum" to the church of Saint-Vincent du Mans[819]. Her first marriage is indicated by a charter dated 15 Jul 1081 which records the confirmation by "Hamelinus Galterii filius" of the churches of Gombergean and Lancôme by La Trinité de Vendôme with the approval of "Helvisa conjux ipsius, filia Odonis Dublelli quæ nata illi fuerat de uxore sua, filia...Nihardi de Monteaureo"[820]. The chronology of the charters quoted in this section and of her descendants dictates the order of Placentia´s marriages. Eudes & his wife had two children:
1. HELVISE [Adriana/Hodierna] de Doubleau ([1020/25]-after 15 Mar 1075). Her parentage and two marriages are confirmed by the charter dated to [1067/74] under which her second husband "Hamelinus de Longiaco, pariterque uxor mea…Helviza, filia Odonis Dublelli" donated "[ecclesiam] Sancte Marie…Tufiacum" to the church of Saint-Vincent du Mans, for the soul of "Hugonis Dublelli minoris filii…Odonis Dublelli" who was buried at Saint-Vincent, with the consent of "filii nostri Wauterii et filie nostre Hersendis, meique privigni…Ilberti qui fuit filius Pagani"[821]. The issue is confused by a charter dated 3 Jun 1040, which records the donation by "Hugo Dublellus archidiaconus et Odo Dublellus frater eius" of "ecclesiam Sancti-Beati" to La Trinité de Vendôme, states that "Hamelinus de Langeia" succeeded as seigneur de Mondoubleau after the death of Hugues, that "eius uxor Adriena, soror Hugonis" wanted to rescind part of the donation, and that "Fredescendis filia Odonis Dublelli uxor Nivelongis Pagani, filii Nivelonis de Carnoto" wanted to rescind the donation after her husband was killed[822]. If this document is correct, Eudes de Mondoubleau had two daughters, "Adriana" married to Hamelin de Langeais and "Fredescendis" married to Nivelon de Fréteval. However, the charter dated to [1067/74] quoted above names a single daughter "Helviza" who was the wife of "Pagani", by whom she had "Ilberti", and secondly of Hamelin. A more remote possibility is that there were two sisters, both of whom married Hamelin in turn. The question is clarified by the charter dated 15 Mar 1075 which records donations by "Hugo filius Odonis Dublelli" and by "Hamelinus de Langeia", with the consent of "Adierna uxor eius, sororis…Hugonis", and states that Hamelin succeeded "in honorem Hugoni" after the death of the latter[823]. This last document clarifies that Hamelin succeeded to Mondoubleau after returning from Rome which, the wording of the charter implies, was a relatively recent event. If that is correct, there is insufficient time for Hamelin to have been married to two sisters, given that the supposed second sister was the mother of Ilbert by her former marriage. The conclusion is therefore that the 3 Jun 1040 charter version of events must be incorrect, that Eudes de Mondoubleau had only one daughter, and that she was referred to as Helvise and Hodierna in different documents. m firstly NIVELON [II] [Paganus] de Fréteval, son of NIVELON [I] Sire de Fréteval & his wife Ermentrude --- (-killed in battle Fréteval [1042/44]). m secondly (]1042/44]) HAMELIN de Langeais, son of GAUTHIER de Langeais & his wife Hersende --- (-after [1100]). Seigneur de Mondoubleau [1073/74]. 2. HUGUES de Doubleau ([1030/40]-[1073]). A charter dated 3 Jun 1040, which records the donation by "Hugo Dublellus archidiaconus et Odo Dublellus frater eius" of "ecclesiam Sancti-Beati" to La Trinité de Vendôme, records that his son "Hugonis" was granted "honorem de Montedublello" by Geoffroy "Martel" Comte d´Anjou after his father died[824]. The charter dated 15 Mar 1075, quoted below, confirms that Hugues was still a child when his father died. If this is correct, he must have been much younger than his sister and the questions arises whether they were born from the same marriage. "Hugo archidiaconus, Odo et Girardus fratres ipsius Hugonis archidiaconi, Hugo nepos eorum…" signed the charter dated 1057 and Jan 1058 which records the sale of property by "Nivelone filio Graulfi", with the consent of "Hugone archidiacono et Hugone nepote suo et sorore eius, filiis Odonis Dublelli, Odone quoque Rufo ipsius Nivelonis domino…[et] uxore etiam et filia ipsius Nivelonis", to La Trinité de Vendôme[825]. Seigneur de Montdoubleau. A charter dated to before 1074 confirms that "Hugo Dublellus junior" was buried at Saint-Vincent du Mans, in the presence of "Herberto filio Hugonis et eius uxore"[826]. A charter dated 15 Mar 1075 records that "Hugo filius Odonis Dublelli", once he was adult, confirmed previous donations to La Trinité de Vendôme which he had made "in pueritia sua" at the court of Geoffroy II "Martel" Comte d´Anjou, for the souls of "…patrui…Hugonis archidiaconi", that "Hamelinus de Langeia" succeeded "in honorem Hugoni" following his return from Rome after Hugues died and further confirmed donations with the consent of "Adierna uxor eius, sororis…Hugonis"[827]. [813] Veterum Scriptorum I, col. 375. [814] Marmoutier-Vendômois, LXII, p. 99. [815] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, XXI, p. 41. [816] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, XLVI, p. 99. [817] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CXXVIII, p. 229. [818] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CLIV, p. 267. [819] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 175, p. 105. [820] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome II, CCCII, p. 7. [821] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 175, p. 105. [822] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, XLVI, p. 99. [823] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CCL, p. 394. [824] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, XLVI, p. 99. [825] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CXVIII, p. 212. [826] Le Mans Saint-Vincent, Liber primus, 176, p. 107. [827] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, CCL, p. 394.
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WIKIPEDIA:
House of Montoire
The House of Montoire, started with Nihard, Lord of Montoire. Later, through the marriages of Plaisante de Montoire and Helvise Doubleau, the possessions of Mondoubleau and Fréteval Langeais were added. The manor of Mondoubleau and, following the marriage of Pierre II de Montoire and Agnès de Vendôme, the county of Vendôme became part of the House of Montoire. House of Montoire Nihard (+ 1059), seigneur de Montoire[1] Plaisante of Montoire[2] 1) Married, Eudes I of Doubleau (+1057), seigneur de Montdoubleau, 2) Married, Aubry de Nouatre (+1072), seigneur de Montoire
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