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Note: Births Jun 1909 WESTBROOK Elsie Edith Croydon 2a 292
******************** Marriages Dec 1930
Weinand Albert F Westbrook Croydon 2a 911
Westbrook Elsie E Weinand Croydon 2a 911
******************** England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
Name: Elsie Edith Weinand
Birth Date: 13 Mar 1909
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 2002
Age at death (estimated): 93
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Register number: A40
Entry Number: 157
******************** Unfortunately as a child we very rarely saw either Elsie or Albert although they only lived in Crowborough as, like us, they had no transport. They would come to visit but it was normally when we were at school, consequentially we only saw them about a dozen times through out our child hood. This was in stark contrast to May Adams whom we saw almost every week either at their home or when she came to stay for the week end, which she did every other week. Even Fred Adams, who preferred not to stay with us but to cycle to Brixton from croydon ,even at the age of 80+, to visit his brother / sister, was seen at least every other week
Elsie and Albert spent a majority of their lives dedicated to the Salvation Army. They took care of the Norwood Salvation Army hall ......which was bombed during the war..... Eventually moving to Crowborough Sussex to take care of the hall there. Upon Albert’s death, due to a short fight against leukemia, Elise moved in with younger daughter Maureen and her family. This did not work out and she then moved into a flat. The flat was within a block, which is reserved for the elderly only and has a caretaker present. Ironically the flat was located in the same block that son in law Eric’s mother had lived prior to her death a few years before. Daphne became her live out career checking on her every day. Although she was by this time unable to attended Salvation Army meetings regually she kept in contact with them when possible. To fulfill her religious requirements she attended the New Addington baptist church at which Daphne is the Deacon and where she regularly saw Barbara during the regular women’s own meeting which are held each Monday. Despite her age she remained alert right up to the last couple of years, retaining her no nonsense personality in which she very much believed in calling a spade a spade and not a shovel. This still shone threw even in those last couple of years when she become very forgetful but by no means senile.
If you looked at Elsie and May together you would have saw a contrast in their appearance and demeanour. May was a typical elderly lady tidy but had a look and personality of that of a laboring family background. Elsie at almost 6 foot was the opposite carring her self upright and smart giving the impression of a more fortunate family background. In reality it was the other way around. May ‘s grandfather did well for him self as a cobbler in Kendal, Westmoreland and May often spoke of going out to tea as a young girl. Where as Elsie’s family were agricultural laborers and when her father left wield, Hampshire he became a coalman.
Lived in New Addington which borders the London borough of Croydon, Surrey. New Addington despite it being the responsibility of Croydon council is not serviced by London ambulance service but by surrey ambulance so leading to her being taken to Orpington hospital rather than the near Croydon university hospital, therefore her death was required to be reg'ed in the Bromley district.
She was cremated in Croydon crem' following service at New Addington Baptist church present were members of the salvation army whom spoke of her dedication to the order.
Shortly after the army dedicated an item in her name. in the then recently rebuilt army hall in New Addington.
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