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Continued: John Frederick-Jude moved from Pike Co., Kentucky to Floyd Co. Kentucky
between 1850 and 1860 or about 1855. He had different neighbors in 1860
than he had previously in 1850. Also, since he did not have the same
neighbors in 1880 as he did in 1870, he moved from Floyd Co., KY to Lower
John's Creek in Pike Co. KY in about 1875.
Sources:
Fact 1: 1810 "John Jude" included 2 sons under 10 and one son 10-15 in
the Surry Co., NC census
Fact 2: 1820 "Polly Jude" included 2 sons as 10-15 and one son 16-25 in
the Grayson Co. VA census
Fact 3: 1830 "John Jude" was listed on the Pike County Kentucky census
Fact 4: 1840 "John Jude" was listed on the Pike County Kentucky census
Fact 5: 28 Aug 1850 "John Fredric" was listed on the Pike County Kentucky
census #479
Fact 6: 25 Jul 1860 "John Frederick" was listed on the Floyd County
Kentucky census #329
Fact 7: 25 Aug 1870 "John Jude" was listed on the Floyd County Kentucky
census #107
Fact 8: 18 Jun 1880 "John Federick" was listed on the Pike County
Kentucky census #13
John Jude, II was also known as John Frederick, II. His parents were
John Jude and Mary "Polly" (Stotts) of the New River Valey in North
Carolina/Virginia.
The 1810 Surry Co., NC census shows the household for "John Jude"
included males: 2 <10, 1 10-15, 1 = or >45 and females: 1 = or >45.
Consequently, John Jude and his wife Mary, also known as Polly, were both
born before 1765. They had two sons John and Peter who were born between
1801 and 1810 or about 1805 and another son Martin who was born between
1795 and 1800 or about 1798. John Jude's nearest neighbor was Peter
Stotts. The census shows the household for "Peter Stots" included males:
1 = or >45 and females: 1 <10, 1 16-25, 1 = or >45. Consequently, Peter
Stotts and his wife were both born before 1765.
The 1820 Grayson Co., VA census shows the household for "Polly Jude"
included males: 2 10-15, 1 16-25 and females: 1 = or >45. Consequently,
Polly was born on or before 1775 and her oldest son Martin was born
between 1795 and 1804 or about 1800 and her other sons John and Peter
were born between 1805 and 1810 or about 1808. When Polly's son Peter
married in Pike Co., KY in 1831, "Mary Frederick" gave permission for her
son "Peter Frederick" to get married. Polly is a nickname for Mary.
1830 Pike Co., KY census shows John Jude males: 1 <5, 1 20-29 and
females: 1 5-9, 1 15-19. Consequently, John was born between 1801 and
1810 or about 1805.
1840 Pike Co. KY census John Jude males: 1 <5, 2 5-9, 1 40-49 and
females: 2<5, 1 20-29. Consequently, this census indicates John was born
between 1791 and 1800 or about 1795. However, later censuses shows he
was born about 10 years later. So, the enumerator checked the wrong box
for the correct age bracket.
1850 Pike Co., KY census August 28
No. 479 John Frederic 37* VA [born 1813]
Priscilla [Rutherford] 37 KY
Sarah 16 VA
Mary 14 VA
Martin 12 VA
Joseph 8 KY
Hiram 6 KY
Dicey 5 KY
Nancy 3 KY
Mary A. 6/12
* The age indicated on this census was incorrect and John was about ten
years older than the age indicated on the census. Instead of showing 37,
the census taker should have written 47.
No. 480 Nathan Frederic 21 KY
Mary [Blankenship] 12 KY
1860 Floyd Co., KY census July 25
Post Office: Prestonsburg
No. 329 John Frederick 57 VA [born 1803]
Priscilla [Rutherford] 42 KY
Eliza Jane Williams 15 KY
Mary Frederick 12 KY
Hiram 7 KY
Joseph 19 KY
Margarette 21 KY
John Frederick-Jude moved from Pike Co., KY to Floyd Co. KY between 1850
and 1860 or about 1855. He did not have the same neighbors in 1850 and
1860.
1870 Floyd Co., KY census August 25
Post Office: Prestonsburg
No. 107 Jude, John 62 NC [born 1808]
Priscilla [Rutherford] 57 KY
Tiller, Brittan 28 VA
Mary A. 23 KY
Nancy J. 1 KY
Tiller, Allen 25 KY
Rachael 1 KY
1880 Pike Co., KY census June 8
Lower John's Precinct No. 5.
No. 13 Frederick John 76 [bornn 1804] NC, Germany, VA
Priscilla [Rutherford] wife 66 KY, VA, KY
Tiller Britt 38 son in law WV, VA, VA
Tiller Mary Anne 30 daughter KY, KY, NC
Nancy Jane 10 granddaughter KY, WV, KY
Eliza Jane 8 granddaughter KY, WV, KY
John 5 grandson KY, WV, KY
Hezekiah 4 grandson KY, WV, KY
Polly 1 granddaughter KY, WV, KY
John Frederick-Jude moved from Floyd Co., KY to Lower John's Creek in
Pike Co. KY in about 1875 because he did not have the same neighbors in
1870 and 1880.
John's year of birth was listed differently on the census records as
follows:
1810 about 1805
1820 about 1808
1830 about 1805
1840 about 1795*
1850 born 1813*
1860 born 1803
1870 born 1808
1880 born 1804
* As previously mentioned the age indicated on the 1840 census
incorrectly showed John was born between 1791 and 1800 or about 1795.
This was incorrect and should have been about 1805. Also, as previously
mentioned the age indicated on the 1850 census incorrectly showed John
was 37 and born about 1813. This was also incorrect and the census taker
probably should have written his age as 47 and born about 1803.
Considering all the ages indicated on the different census records, a
good estimation of his year of birth was about 1805.
According to oral family history the earliest member of the Jude family
who came to the Tug River Valley of Central Appalachia was John Jude who
was also known as John Frederick. He came to eastern Kentucky before
1825 with renowned pioneer Moses Stepp from the New River Valley. John's
brothers Martin and Peter also used the alias surname Frederick. Their
father John Jude was identified on the 1810 Surry Co., North Carolina
census and according to that census he was born before 1765. The New
River flows through Surry County, NC. John's nearest neighbor was Peter
Stotts who was probably a brother or son of John Stotts. John Jude died
before the 1820 census when his wife Mary or "Polly" Jude was identified
on the 1820 Grayson County, Virginia census which suggests John Jude died
about 1815. In 1825 Mary was identified as "Mary Frederick" when she
gave permission for her son "John Frederick" to get married in Pike Co.,
KY. Since Mary was no longer using the Jude surname and was using a
different surname, it implies she married again to a man whose surname
was Frederick. Since Mary gave permission for her son John to get
married in 1825, it suggests John was under 21 when he was married which
suggests he was born after 1804 and subequentWhen her son John was listed
on the 1880 Pike Co., KY census as "John Frederick", he indicated that
his father was born in Germany. He was likely referring to his step
father which supports the theory his mother married an unidentified
German immigrant with the surname Frederick or "Friedrich" after her
husband John Jude had died. In order to honor their stepfather, John and
his brothers Martin and Peter used their stepfather's surname as their
own, but most of their descendants eventually switched back to their
original surname which was Jude.
The Jude family was closely associated with the family of John Stotts who
was a Revolutionary War veteran who also came from the New River Valley.
John Stotts was born in 1750 since he stated on his pension application
in 1829 that he was about 80 years old. In 1825 when John Frederick or
Jude married Martha "Pasty" Boney in Pike Co., KY, the witnesses included
John Stotts and John Stotts' stepsons Silas P. Ooten and Levi Ooten.
John Stotts had married his second wife "Anne Whootan" in Surry Co., NC
before they came to the Tug River Valley. Due to the close association
between John Stotts and the Jude family, it is logical to conclude John
Stotts was probably the grandfather of John Frederick or Jude and
explains why he was a witness on the marriage record which implies he was
probably also the father of John Frederick or Jude's mother Mary. Martha
"Patsy" Boney was a daughter of a French Huguenot immigrant named Joseph
Boner/Boney who was first married to Sally Stotts before he later married
Martha's mother Sarah Mullins. Sally Stotts was probably a daughter of
John Stotts.
Also, John Jude and his wife Mary had a son who was named Peter. It is
likely the source for Peter's name was Peter Stotts who was probably the
brother or uncle to Mary and as previously mentioned was their closest
neighbor on the 1810 Surry Co., NC census. Peter Frederick or Jude
married Mary "Polly" (Roberts) Collins in 1831 who was probably a widow
and had married an unidentified man with the surname Collins. She was
listed on the 1830 Pike Co., KY census as "Polly Collins" and her nearest
neighbor was Margaret Stotts who was possibly the widow of John Stotts,
II. One of her other closest neighbors was John Frederick or Jude who
was listed as "John Jude". Other close neighbors included Levi Ooten and
his brother Jordan Ooten who were the stepsons of John Stotts. Mary was
the daughter of Jacob Roberts and Olive "Ollie" Stotts. Olive was a
sister of John Stotts and their parents were Andrew Stotts and his wife
Mary whose maiden name is unknown. Andrew Stotts fought in the
Revolutionary War from Montgomery Co., VA and he was also a veteran of
Lord Dunmore's War. His name is recorded as early as 1771 when he was
included on the List of Tithables for Botetourt Co., VA. He was last
listed in 1797 on a deed filed in Wythe Co., Virginia when he and his
wife Mary granted property to their son John Stotts. Since this was the
last document recorded for Andrew and Mary and since they were getting
older and transferred their land to their oldest son, they probably died
soon afterwards or about 1800. Andrew's surname has also been found
spelled as STOT, STOLZ, STOTT and STOOT. His descendants' names have
been found spelled as STOTTS or STOOTS.
A summary of the Frederick or Jude family is found below:
There are primarily two major branches of the JUDE family in America.
According to census records, one branch emigrated from Ireland to America
and arrived in the state of Maine before eventually settling in the state
of Minnesota. The other considerably larger branch appears to have
English origins and eventually settled along the Tug River Valley in
Eastern Kentucky and Southwestern West Virginia. This branch is known as
the FREDERICK or JUDE family. Even though the surname JUDE is the
original surname of the FREDERICK or JUDE family of the Tug River Valley,
the surname FREDERICK was used as an alias by this family for
approximately 100 years between 1820 and 1920 before this family finally
decided to permanently switch back to using the original JUDE surname.
The FREDERICK surname is German and was originally spelled "FRIEDRICH".
Sources suggest JUDE may be English. Early records from the seventeenth
century show a high concentration of the JUDE family located near the
city of Newcastle upon Tyne, which today is known as Newcastle and is one
of England's largest cities. It is located in the county of
Northumberland, which is England's most northern county. Even though
there are records showing the JUDE surname in other parts of England, it
appears the JUDE family of Northumberland are the progenitors of the JUDE
family that eventually settled in America along the Tug River Valley of
Eastern Kentucky and Southwestern West Virginia. These descendants can
trace their origins to the three sons of John JUDE, Sr. who was born
before 1765. Those sons included John FREDERICK or JUDE, Jr., Martin &
Peter. More specifically, those members of the JUDE family who live or
have relatives in Martin County, Kentucky, are descendants of John, Jr.
He was a renowned pioneer of the Tug River Valley born about 1800
somewhere in the New River Valley, possibly in Surry Co., North Carolina.
There is not very much information about John Jr's parents. They lived
in the New River Valley and their names were John Jude and Mary (Stotts)
who was also known as Polly. Apparently, John, Sr. died while his
children were quite young and his widow remarried an unidentified German
immigrant whose last name was FREDERICK or FRIEDRICH. John Jr's
biological father, John JUDE, Sr., is recorded on the 1810 Surry Co., NC
census as John JUDE. This is the earliest record found that pertains to
this family in America. According to this record, John was listed as
more than 45 years old indicating he was born before 1765. Ten years
later, John Sr's widow, Mary or "Polly" is recorded on the 1820 Grayson
Co., VA census as "Polly Jude". She was listed on this census as head of
the household which indicates her husband may have died before the census
was taken in 1820. Grayson Co., VA and Surry Co., NC are neighboring
counties and the New River flows through Grayson County. Also, both
censuses indicated there were three sons. Those three sons would have
been John, Jr. and his brothers Martin & Peter.
Since Polly's new husband helped to raise her sons after her husband
died, all three brothers assumed their stepfather's FREDERICK surname.
Martin's descendants continue to use the surname FREDERICK. Peter did
not use the FREDERICK surname very long and suddenly switched back to
JUDE and his descendants continue to use the surname JUDE. Information
suggests that John, Jr. assumed his stepfather's FREDERICK surname
between 1820 and 1825 and according to legend, he came to Eastern
Kentucky from the New River Valley area of Virginia and the Carolinas
with fellow traveler Moses Stepp. Even though John, Jr. assumed his
stepfather's surname, he apparently became closely associated with the
family of Revolutionary War veteran Moses STEPP, who was another renowned
pioneer of the Tug River Valley. In fact, one source states John, Jr.
was considered a foster son of Moses STEPP. The exact reason for this
close relationship has not yet been confirmed, but there may be a
connection through the Jackson family suggesting John Jr. may have been
related to Moses' wife Sally (Jackson) Stepp. In fact, according to
noted family historian Clyde "Cecil" Fields, John Jude was "a son of a
Jackson and was related to President Andrew Jackson". If the preceding
quote was referring to John's mother, then Moses' wife Sally could have
been John's aunt on his mother's side. This would suggest that Sally and
Mary were sisters and Mary's maiden name was Mary "Polly" Jackson.
According to family tradition, John Jr. often traveled with Moses Stepp
into the wilderness looking for new hunting grounds and it was on one of
these hunting trips that they came to Eastern Kentucky. Even though
John, Jr. assumed the FREDERICK surname in about 1825, most of his
descendants did not decide to permanently change their surname back to
Jude until about one hundred years later.
John, Jr. became a lumberjack. He was a large man who was well known for
his enormous strength and his exceptional skills in this occupation.
Stories have been handed down for many generations describing his
participation in various occupational endeavors including barn raisings.
He was also a very competitive person and was very active in barrel
lifting contests and even fighting with bears. Also, whenever he was
challenged to a brawl he would never refuse to participate and gained a
reputation for his fearless determination and strong will. This trait
has become part of John Jr's legacy and anyone who is familiar with this
family, knows how prevalent it is among his descendants.
Using his skills as a lumberjack, John, Jr. settled the brushy, pristine
wilderness of southern Martin County, KY along Wolf Creek. Due to his
fierce determination, he was able to prosper in a very rugged environment
and established strong ties within his community. In addition to his
association with Moses STEPP, he also established strong ties with the
family of James RUTHERFORD and became a large landowner and raised a
large family with several members who married in the RUTHERFORD family.
Later, the family of Civil War Veteran Isaac MAYNARD, Sr. became closely
associated with the JUDE family. The MAYNARD family was the largest
family in the area and maintained a very close relationship with the JUDE
family. In fact, Isaac MAYNARD, Sr. had 5 children who married in the
JUDE family including three of Isaac's daughters who married grandsons of
John, Jr as well as one son who married a granddaughter of John, Jr. and
another son who married a great-granddaughter of John, Jr. The MAYNARD
and JUDE families have maintained a very close relationship for more than
100 years, which has also resulted in many other intermarriages among
these two families. The last time John FREDERICK or JUDE, Jr. appeared
on a census was in 1880. On the 1880 Pike Co., KY census, he was
recorded as "John Frederick" and stated that his father was born in
Germany. Since FREDERICK is a German surname, John, Jr. was probably
referring to his stepfather.
Even though most of the descendants of John FREDERICK or JUDE, Jr. use
the JUDE surname, there is one branch of this family who continues to use
the FREDERICK surname Apparently, John FREDERICK or JUDE, IV, son of
John FREDERICK or JUDE, III and Sarah "Sally" RUTHERFORD, was involved in
a family altercation and moved away from his family in Martin Co. and
settled just west of Martin Co., KY in Morgan Co., KY near the Licking
River and kept the FREDERICK surname.
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