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Note: My primary reference to George Black is found in the handwritten marriage certificate for Agnes Black and James Nickle. My own transcription of this handwritten certificate reads as follows: ``I do hereby certify that on the sixteenth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty-five James Nickle of the township of Dunfries and Agnes Black of Beverly were married by me Thomas Fawcett a Minister of the Wesleyan Methodist Church in Canada in the presence of George Black and Mary Ann Black which said marriage was solemnized by banns Witnyss my hand at St George April 16th a.d. 1855 Thomas Fawcett Wesleyan Minister Witneyss James Black Mary ann Black´´ Transcribed: April 10, 2005 By Samuel William Aylesworth Great-great grandson of James & Agnes At this time I am ASSUMING that this George Black is a brother of Agnes Black and Eliza Jane Black. However, I do not currently have PROOF that this was so. What I do know about the person or persons named George Black is: a) A George Black is mentioned as a witness to the marriage of Agnes Black and James Nickle in 1855, as noted above (see their entries in this database) b) A Mary Ann Black is also mentioned as a witness to the marriage. c) The marriage of Agnes and James took place St. George, in the Twp of South Dumfries. d) In the 1851 Canadian Census of the Township of South Dumfries a George Black, age 19, and a Maryann Black, age 14, both from Ireland, are living with the Beemer family. See page 23, lines 6 and 8. [Two other Irish persons are also staying there: David Mickle, age 29, and Mary McKundry, age 25.] The Beemer Family were all born in Canada; they were Mthodists. The four Irish are listed as Prebyterian (as was Agnes Black and her sister Eliza Jane Black). e) In the obituary for Eliza Jane Black it says: "Mrs. Hardy, whose maiden name was Eliza Jane Black, was born in the country of Down, Ireland, and came to Canada with other members of her family when 13 years old. The family first settled at St. George [in the county of South Dumfries, Brant County, Ontario] and afterwards in Caradoc township [Middlesex County, Ontario], where she was married to Mr. Hardy in 1869. After their marriage they took up their residence in Thamesville, where Mrs. Hardy has resided for fifty-three years. Deceased was a member of St. James Presbyterian church." f) A marriage record located for Brant County by the Brantford Office of Ontario Genealogical Society refers to the marriage of a George Black as follows: George Black, 22, residence South Dumfries, born County Down, Ireland, son of Joseph and Jane [Black], married 22 September 1858 to Mary Ellis, 18, residence South Dumfries, born Dumfries, daugther of William and Hannah [Ellis]." [This information was passed to me by email from OGS; I do not yet have a copy of this marriage record. SWA] g) The family of William and Hannah Ellis are listed in the 1851 Canadian Census of the Township of South Dumfries, page 19, lines 41 - 47. A Mary Ellis is listed as a daugther, then aged about 12. h) A Mr. Jim Cobban from Ontario has been researching the Black family and has obtained the following detailed information about the George Black who married Mary Ann Ellis: - George Black was born on June 4, 1833 or 1834 in Ireland (his marriage record indicates in Ireland, in the County of Down) - he married Mary Ann Ellis, as noted above - the family lived for awhile in South Dumfries and then moved to the Township of Caradoc, in the County of Middlesex [just as Eliza Jane Black did. SWA] - George and Mary Ann has eight children, which I have listed in this database. - George died May 29th, 1912 on lot 18, conscession 1, Caradoc, Middlesex Ontario (Mr. Cobban has located the death certificate). - As noted on his death certificate, his parents were JOSEPH and JANE BLACK. [At this time, I do not know if the parents remained in Ireland or came to Canada.] - Mary Ann (Ellis) Black was born September 22, 1840 in Dumfries Towship, Ontario, and died August 16th, 1918 in J.R. Veales, Caradoc, Middlesex, Ontario So, regarding the George Black who married Mary Ann Ellis, the critical questions are: 1) Is this George Black the same person who witnessed the marriage of Agnes Black and James Nickle in 1855 in the Township of Dumfries or Beverly? We do note that Agnes Black and James Nickle married at St. George, which is in South Dumfries. 2) Is this George Black the same George Black who is listed in the 1851 Canadian Census for South Dumfries, alongwith Mary Ann Black. 3) If there is only one George Black here, what is his relationship to Agnes Black? Were they brother and sister? Cousins? 4) Similarly, what is the relationshp between George Black and Mary Ann Black? Where they brother and sister? Cousins? Similarly, regarding the Mary Ann Black who is listed in the Census in the same household as George Black: 1) Is this Mary Ann the same person who witnessed the marriage of Agnes Black and James Nickle in 1855 in the Township of Dumfries or Beverly? We do note that Agnes Black and James Nickle married at St. George, which is in South Dumfires. 2) If this is the same Mary Ann, what is her relationship to Agnes Black? Were they sisters? Cousins? 3) Is this Mary Ann Black the Mary Ann Black who married John Powell Davies in Paris, Ontario, in the Township of Dumfries, in 1858?. 4) If there is only one Mary Ann Black here, what is her relationship to James Black and George Black, who also witnessed the marriage of Agnes Black & James Nickle? Are they brothers? Is one her father? Are they cousins? I do not know. Written by: Sam Aylesworth, March 14, 2007 ======== On August 8 2008, I located the marriage record for the marriage of Samuel BLACK, widower, to Agnes MENZIES. This marriage record states that the parents of Samuel BLACK were Joseph BLACK and his wife Jane (maiden name UNKNOWN). I had previously learned that the parents of George BLACK (who married Mary Ann ELLIS) were Joseph BLACK and his wife Jane. Based on this information, I am now ASSUMING that Samuel BLACK was a brother of George BLACK, and thus a brother of Agnes BLACK, Mary Ann BLACK and Eliza Jane BLACK. This note written by Sam Aylesworth, Aug 8, 2008. ======
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