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Note: s a pianist and vocalist. She attained a position of prominence in musical circles in Detroit, and studied abroad for three years. Spending six months in Leipzig, Germany, under Professor Schirmer, after which she went to Berlin, and studied under Professors Bart and Moszkowski, who were her instructors in instrumental music, while Professor Julius Hey superintended her voice culture. An indication of her talent is given in the fact that while she was studying under Moszkowski, he told her that he could not teach her, but only criticize her work. After a three years course abroad she returned to Detroit, where in 1893, she married Dr. Ives. She sang for a number of years in the Unitarian church at the corner of Woodward Avenue and Edmond Place in that city, and at the same time taught both piano and vocal. In the spring of 1895, Eugenia's health began to fail and she went on a visit to northern Michigan; afterward going south to Santa Fe, New Mexico, where she was much improved. She then returned to Detroit for the summer, but in the fall, her health began to fail and she was sent to Nice, France, but the change did not prove beneficial, and she died April 5, 1897; her sister Caroline being with her. Her remains were interred in the Little English cemetery, overlooking the Mediterranean Sea. Source: Past and Present of Macomb County, circa 1905. See her father's listing for a full version :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:45 AM To: Leggett, David Subject: This is Eugenia Schnoor by L.T. Ives dated 1893 [JPG attached] From: Leggett, David Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:44 PM To: 'John Dodson' Subject: RE: Agustus OK, sounds good, thanks. If you have a jpeg, I can add that to the database too. I am at 2408 N. Quantico St., Arlington, Virginia 22207 From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:03 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: Agustus Hello David, I was told that the Duncans will sell the large (5' X 6.5') portrait of Margaret Leggett for $20,000.00 if you are intrested. If you are not I plan to buy it! I will send out 2 photos of my paintings on Friday. Keep me posted!!! John From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:43 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: Agustus The guy is Agustus Ives by L.T. Ives the girl is Eugenia Schnoor by L.T.Ives also. Will mail you a great photo of the two. John (how about a mailing address?) ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: RE: Agustus So who is that second painting of? I will add these images to my database. If you get any better ones, please pass them along. From: Leggett, David Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:25 PM To: 'John Dodson' Subject: RE: Ives They were...what? Well, you need not fear competition from me in buying those paintings. I buy paintings, but not in that bracket. I bought one for $150 up in Nantucket this summer, that's about it. I'd enjoy talking to the Duncans, if you can tell me how to reach them. -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:22 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Fw: Agustus ----- Original Message ----- From: John Dodson To: John Dodson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:08 PM From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:21 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: Ives Yes I contacted them and they had these two for sale for $10,000.00 so I decided to buy them . Mr. Duncan is in a rehab now and is due home soon.(stroke) He has another very large painting of a Leggett Woman (wife of L.T. Ives) but does not plan to sell her. It hung over Dr. Ives' buffet on Rucker place. They were ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: RE: John You're right, the photo is not too good, but interesting anyway. Where did you buy the painting? From the Duncan people? David -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:06 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Fw: Hello David here is a (bad) photo of a painting I recently purchased by L.T. Ives of Eugenia Schnoor. I have another one coming of Dr. Agustus Ives. Feel free to email me or call when ever you can. Later John 410-490-1067 -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:32 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hello David John has been in VA at his recently aquired farm. He has been back and forward for the past few months and is due home soon. He sends his best and said he plans to email you when he returns. Cheers Tim (I work for him) ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES John, Are you still alive and kicking? David -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:35 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hi David, Sorry I haven't been more in touch. I've been up at my farm, getting some affairs in order(deed recording, etc.) I must head back up there tomorrow but I did talk to Dr. David (several weeks ago) and he was not very informative, but he did give me a name of Duncan in Arizonia I think I had already heard that before. He said the money went to the research center in Margarets honor. ( I alreay heard that too) I don't think he liked the Duncans very well though. Sorry I'm so brief but got a million things to do. I will email you next week with the details on what I know so far. Cheers John From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:11 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hi David, John has been back and forward to the farm in Charlottsville (spelling?) and he is due back soon, he wanted to let you know. Tim Quinn ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:18 PM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES John, I have been working on other issues here, while you have been away, but would like to pursue Margaret Ives a bit more when you get the chance. Where is your farm? David -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:06 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hello Mr Legget, John is out of town, he is up at his farm for a few days. He said to tell you he will respond to your email on Monday the 18th . Thank You, Tim(his partner here at Legal Spirits) ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES John, How did you make out with Dr. David in Bethesda? I found many internet hits for the Transnational Family Research Institute. Two are below. It has nothing to do with genealogy, as I thought it might at first. Do you know anything more of the Duncans? United States of America (New York) 18 STUDIES IN FAMILY PLANNING JANUARY/FEBRUARY 1992 - VOLUME 23, NUMBER 1 92.18.12 - English - Henry P. DAVID, Transnational Family Research Institute, 8307 Whitman Drive, Bethesda, MD 20817 (U.S.A.) Abortion in Europe, 1920-91: A Public Health Perspective (p. 1-22) This article grew out of a keynote address prepared for the conference, "From Abortion to Contraception: Public Health Approaches to Reducing Unwanted Pregnancy and Abortion through Improved Family Planning Services", held in Tbilisi, Georgia, USSR in October 1990. The article reviews the legal, religious, and medical situation of induced abortion in Europe in historical perspective, and considers access to abortion services, attitudes of health professionals, abortion incidence, morbidity and mortality, the new antiprogestins, the characteristics of abortion seekers, late abortions, postabortion psychological reactions, effects of denied abortion, and repeat abortion. Special attention is focused on the changes occurring in Romania, Albania, and the former Soviet Union, plus the effects of the new conservatism elsewhere in the formerly socialist countries of central and eastern Europe, particularly Poland. (EUROPE, ABORTION, PUBLIC HEALTH).... Boone Turchi is an economist-demographer who specializes in the analysis of household demographic and economic behavior. He uses microeconomic theory to explain U.S. fertility intentions and family planning behavior. He is interested in modeling the context within which such individual allocative decisions as reproductive decision making take place. He has written on issues involved in using and misusing microeconomic theory in demographic analysis. Currently, he is collaborating with Warren Miller (Transnational Family Research Institute) on the determinants of family size decisions using economic, psychological, and normative data collected from a sample of 500 women in California. Turchi has studied the financial cost of children in the United States and Colombia, examined reproductive and labor force behavior of young U.S. couples, and has written a book on the economics of U.S. fertility. He has done research on the interface of psychology, economics, and sociology and the impact of declining population on economies of industrialized nations. Recent work involves the microeconomics of fertility and community impacts on individual demographic behavior in Mexico and a monograph on the economic condition of American families in the 1980s and 1990s. Turchi teaches several primary population courses in economics, including a course on the family. David From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:02 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES I was not able to redail that # for the Duncans but it's in my car. When I find it tonight I'll send it to you. By reading the last item you sent me I see your relation to the Ives I was thinking something totally different. I thought the Leggett side was Agustus' grandmother or something, sorry I'm not with it sometimes it's all so far back and detailed, wow. I will email you soon with the latest info, John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: Leggett, David ; 'jwdtjq@goeaston.net' Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES John, thanks for your good work. Here is what I have on the Schnoors, probably from a cousin of yours, right? 1 May 2001 From: David Thomason [ThomasonD2@state.mi.us] To: David.Leggett@fns.usda.gov Re: Schnoor Hi, David: I saw your posting on rootsweb for Maxmillian Schnoor. Max is my Great-grand Uncle, and I have a good deal of information about him and his family that I'd be most happy to share with you. Are you related to Max? Dave Thomason :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dave, I don't know if you have clicked through my tree, but the relationship is a very distant one, by marriage. A cousin of mine, Augustus Wright Ives (1861-c.1954), whose mother was a Leggett, married Max's daughter, Margaret Eugania Schnoor (1870-1897). >From what I can see, she died so early, they had no children. He remarried and had his family. Max's wife I have only as Linda Unknown. But I'd be happy to take basic info on Margaret and her parents, in the way of birth, death marriage dates, birth death marriage burial locations and add it to my site. David :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: To: David Thomason [ThomasonD2@state.mi.us] From: David.Leggett@fns.usda.gov Re: RE: Schnoor Hi, Dave: After I sent you the email, I did go through your posting & see that your relationship is "distant". But I'll be glad to give you what I have in the form of a biographical sketch, which I think explains its own origins. I've been to Max's grave, which along with that of his wife, three of his children, and two brothers is located at Oakwood Cemetery in New Baltimore, Michigan. The family is quite well known in the area. I'm sure you have his wife's name incorrectly, and I've never seen Eugenia's first name as Margaret, although that was my mother's first name (she was a Schnoor), so it may be possible. What source do you have? My great-grandfather built a sailing ship (a schooner) called The Eugenia, so I'm curious as to what the origin of the name is within the family. Anyway, here's the bio. I'll have to take a look at some things & if I find anything else you may be interested in I'll send it along. By the way, the text devotes a large amount of space to Eugenia, who was apparently a very talented woman who died quite young. The family house has a large painting of her that shows her to have been a strikingly beautiful woman. I might be able to get you a digital copy of it sometime this year. The following sketch of Max's life comes from the book Past and Present of Macomb County, circa 1905.
Omitted from this thread for brevity. See Maximillian Schnoor's entry for the full biography
Note: The following documentation of Eugenia's marriage is from the text Abridged Compendium - A compendium of family genealogies that includes practically every name distinguished in the early history of the country, Vol. I by Fredrick Virkus IVES, Augustus Wright, b. Detroit, Michigan, Jan. 21, 1861 M. Sept. 11,1893, Eugenia Schnoor (1870-97); daughter of Maximillian Schnoor, New Baltimore, Michigan The following information is taken from Oakwood Cemetery: Max Christian Schnoor: 1820 to 1887 Doris Schnoor: 1828 to 1910 Joachim Schnoor: 1826 to 1857 Manilla: Feb 22, 1865 to Mar 4, 1866 Henriette: Aug 20, 1858 to Mar 5, 1866 Sarah: Nov 10, 1862 to Mar 7, 1866 Apparently, there was a tragedy of some sort in 1866. I have attempted to find information about the deaths of the three little girls in the local papers, but as yet, I have not found any -----Original Message----- From: Leggett, David Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:54 PM To: 'jwdtjq@goeaston.net' Subject: FW: DR. MARGARET IVES John, here are Larry and Kathy's thoughts... -----Original Message----- From: Kathy & Larry McCurdy [mailto:kalamc@ameritech.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:49 PM To: 'Leggett, David' Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES David, Thank the full obit. We will add that to our records. The person that inherited part of Margaret's possessions is probably of the Duncan family we sent you information on since those were her closest relatives and Margaret had travelled with the mother and had taken in one of the daughters at one time. When we visited Margaret, she was living on Ruckers Place and had a two story house. We thought when we got a new address, she had moved into a nursing home. We do not know where we got that idea, but it looks like she might have moved to a different house. The house she had was on a hill and may have had too many steps to climb. It is quite possible that she disposed of much of her collection when she left Rucker Place. Some of the furniture items where gigantic and would have been difficult to move into another place. By the way, we wrote to John and did not get a reply. Talk later. Larry and Kathy From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:36 AM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hello David, Give me a call at 410-490-1067 It because I have lots of information for you and it would take me an hour to pound it out. Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:17 AM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES Not a word. But I have made several phone calls to people at her church who knew her. They have shared their recollections, but nothing concrete so far. I called Hospice of NVa, and got her patient # from a helpful receptionist, but the rep I later talked to didn't think I should have even been given that. She said I could write asking for records, but I think confidentiality is going to be a barrier here. The will would be a public record, I think, and we'll see about this. -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:18 AM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Any word on the Detroit Historical Museum yet? I wonder if wills are public record and if you can get a copy of one. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' ; Leggett, David Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES John, thanks for banging that out by hand. I have made some corrections in brackets; have I guessed correctly at them? She made her early career in Detroit in [the] Wayne County juvenile court system and at Henry Ford Hospital. In 1943, She moved to the Washington area and joined the St. Elizabeths staff. She retired in 1972. She administered the American [B]board of [P]psychologist[s] from 1977 to 1981. Dr. Ives was a lecturer and adjunct professor of psychology at George Washington University from 1945 to 1970. She also [was] an advis[o]r to the D.C. Mental Health Association. Her honers included the Superior Service Award of the old Department of Health, Education and Welfare, the Harold Hildreth Memorial Award of the Division of Psychologist[s] in Public Service of the American Psychological Association and the Distinguished Psychologist Award of the American Board of Forensic Psychology. Dr. Ives was a fellow of the American Psychological Association, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the International Council of Psychologist[s]. She was a member of the D.C. and Virginia Psychological associations, the American Association of University Women, Common Cause and Mount Vernon Unitarian Church in Alexandria. She leaves no survivors. -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:01 AM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES She made her early career in Detroit in Wayne County juvenile court system and at Henry Ford Hospital. In 1943, She moved to the Washington area and joined the St. Elizabeths staff. She retired in 1972. She administered the American board of psychologist from 1977 to 1981. Dr. Ives was a lecturer and adjunct professor of psychology at George Washington University from 1945 to 1970. She also eas an adviser to the D.C. Mental Health Association. Her honers included the Superior Service Award of the old Department of Health, Education and Welfare, the Harold Hildreth Memorial Awardof the Division of Psychologist in Public Service of the American Psychological Association and the Distinguished Psychologist Award of the American Board of Forensic Psychology. Dr. Ives was a fellow of the American Psychological Association, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the International Council of Psychologist. She was a member of the D.C. and Virginia Psychological associations, the American Association of University Women, Commmon Cause and Mount Vernon Unitarian Church in Alexandria. She leaves no survivors. David, Here's the rest of that obituary. Let me know if you get it OK. Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES OK, I like to get it into an electronic format for posting to my site on the web. I can just type in the part that I don't have. Thanks. 2408 N. Quantico St. Arlington, VA 22207-1029 -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:33 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES No I got it by paying and then pulling up the page and printing it. Send me an email with a mailing address and I would be happy to send you a copy. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'jwdtjq@goeaston.net' Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES John, Oh, by the way, is there a chance you could forward that obit to me--seems like the Post shouldn't be making more money off this. You did get it via email, right? David -----Original Message----- From: Leggett, David Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:19 PM To: 'John Dodson'; Leggett, David Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES As discussed -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:50 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hello David, I do have the entire obituary and yes I did have to pay for it. Please keep on trying me at 410-490-1067 and I will get to the phone, It's my cell phone. I really want to talk to you. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' ; Leggett, David Cc: kalamc@ameritech.net Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES Psychologist Margaret Ives Official at St. Elizabeths Article 1 of 1 found July 20, 2000; Page B5 Section: Metro Word Count: 305 Margaret Ives, 97, a retired director of psychological services at St. Elizabeths Hospital who became the executive officer of the American Board of Professional Psychologists, died July 15 at Hospice of Northern Virginia. She had dementia. She lived in Alexandria.Dr. Ives was born in Detroit. She was a graduate of Vassar College, where she was elected to Phi Beta Kappa, and received a doctorate in psychology from the University of Michigan. She made her early career in Detroit in Click for complete article John, this is what I found in a search of the Post archives. I'll have to pay a couple of bucks to get the full text; I may get around to that. I see she had dementia, but don't know when she might have lost it. I moved here from Massachusetts in 1990, but only found out about Margaret in 1999, by which time it was probably too late. I have 50-some pages of transcribed letters from Eliza (Seaman) Leggett, but that's about it on that branch of the family. My grandmother Lucile (1893-1974) was also a "Vassar Girl" but 10 years ahead of Margaret. I have tried calling you today, but you must be at work, the phone at home! I know of Russell Rd. in Alexandria. David -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:31 PM To: Leggett, David Cc: kalamc@ameritech.net Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hello David, I do remember where she lived I know how to get there but I don't know the address. She lived 3 blocks off Russel RD in Alex. I know the story of everything in that house. I even read the old books upstairs in the bedroom off to the left! Margaret and I would chat for hours at a time and the stories of Lewis T.,Percy, Margaret Eugania, Agustus and so on, stuck with me. I especially remember the stories of Chandler and the drowning. There were lots of Leggett stories too. She had a portrait painting of her mothers father who was a Leggett and lots of books that were from the late 1700's all Leggett names inside ans she told me they belonged to her mother's father.(great books too !) This lady and I were very good friends, she trusted me and thats why I am so curious about what happened to her things. I do have an obituary on paper but I don't know how to email it. It says that her last years were spent in the Hospice of Northern VA. It bothered me that it also said she had no family! Now I know thats not true! Let's hope we can find your family and their things. Please contact me if you would like more information I'll be very happy to help. (410)490-1067 John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: Leggett, David ; 'jwdtjq@goeaston.net' Cc: 'kalamc@ameritech.net' Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES Here is the match with the SSDI; seems to mean that she might have moved to DC from Alexandria in her last years? Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued MARGARET IVES 10 Apr 1903 15 Jul 2000 (V) 20038 (Washington, District Of Columbia, DC) (none specified) 579-44-1193 District of Columbia SS-5 -----Original Message----- From: Leggett, David Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 8:00 AM To: 'jwdtjq@goeaston.net' Cc: 'kalamc@ameritech.net' Subject: FW: DR. MARGARET IVES John, I had no idea this lady was still alive until so recently. I could have easily looked her up. Do you have her obituary in an e-version? Do you remember where she lived? I don't know what things she had, but Kathy said there was a good bit of old family stuff. Do you remember anything of it? David -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 5:37 PM To: Leggett, David Subject: Re: DR. MARGARET IVES Hello David, Margaret and I became friends in the early 80's She told me so many great stories and she had so many portraits in her house. I knew who each one was and I felt I knew them well. I moved to New York in1995 and when I left she was living in Alexandria and doing well. Now that I have moved to Maryland I was hoping to se my good friend again. I did find in the Washington Post archives her obituary fron 2000, I was very upset to read it and I hope she wasn't alone when she died. It said she had no family to speak of but she said she had cousins and neices in California, so what ever happened to her things and her house? If I ever see the pictures again I would love to tell who they are. Just all I ask is that you keep me posted on everything and if you would like any information on any of the family history let me know.(Ives,Leggett,etc.)(410)490-1067 feel free to call me anytime, Thank you,John ----- Original Message ----- From: Leggett, David To: 'John Dodson' Cc: 'Kathy & Larry McCurdy' Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: RE: DR. MARGARET IVES John, I never knew Margaret Ives, although she is a cousin of mine. I live in Arlington and work in Alexandria, Virginia, (but only for the last decade) where she lived for some time, some years ago. I recently was made aware of her existence by Larry and Kathy McCurdy of Michigan. Kathy is also my cousin, and she apparently remembers Margaret, from some visits she made to Alexandria years ago, where she saw some Leggett antiques in their house. I am cc'ing Kathy and Larry, and would be interested to know how you knew Margaret, and how you found out about the connection between her and me; I assume Rootsweb? I also assume she is dead, but could be alive at age 99... David -----Original Message----- From: John Dodson [mailto:jwdtjq@goeaston.net] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 5:41 PM To: david.leggett@fns.usda.gov Subject: DR. MARGARET IVES I KNEW THIS LADY YEARS AGO, JUST WONDERING WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO HER. COULD YOU EMAIL ME AND LET ME KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT HER. IF SHE IS STILL ALIVE OR NOT. IT WOULD MEAN ALOT TO ME. THANK YOU, JOHN
Note: Eugenia, at a very early age, displayed a marked talent in music, both a
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