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Note: Talbot is found with his brother Edward in 1910: E. C., Jr. Smith found in:
Census Microfilm Records: Michigan, 1910
Age: 34
Gender: M
Race: W
Birthplace: MI
State: Michigan
County: GENESEE
Locale: 3-WD FLINT
Series: T624
Roll: 642
Part: 2
Page: 171A
They are living at 733 Beach St., rental property that houses two other families. He is 34, she 31. Children Edward 2d, 5 and Mable E., 2. They have been married 8 years, 3 children, 2 living. His brother Talbot, 22, single, is there too. Talbot is a "Reporter, Newspaper" and Edward is a "Printer, Job Office."
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Smith, Talbot J
Age: 31 Year: 1920 Birthplace: Michigan Roll: T625_801 Race: White Page: 12A State: Michigan ED: 688 County: Wayne Image: 220 Township: Highland Park Talbot has married and started a family by 1920. He and his wife, Constance, aged 30, have two boys, Raymond D., born about 1914, and Thurston?, born about 1918. He is an "advertising clerk, adding machine" and she is a "Teacher, Public Schools." They have a Canadian born servant, Laura Cook, listed as "Nurse, Private family."
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Unable to find any of this household in the 1930 Census, 13 Jan 2003. On 1 Feb 2006, did some more research in response to a post-em listing Constance's maiden name and death information in the California Death Index:
1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Talbert T Smith
Name: Talbert T Smith
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Michigan
Relation to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's Name: Constance F Smith
Race: White
Home in 1930: Tucson, Pima, Arizona
Image source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Tucson, Pima, Arizona; Roll: 62; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 58; Image: 190.0.
They own a house in Tuscon, no street listed. Constance has a middle initial listed: F. He is an "Editor, Newspaper" she a Teacher, School Public", Raymond D. "Surveyor, Road." Their second son's name is not Thurston as supposed from the sloppy handwriting of the 1920 enumerator, but Talbot J., Jr.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn And Bill [mailto:drdraw@drdraw.com]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 12:14 PM
To: Leggett, David - FNS
Subject: Tucson
David,
I found the pictures I was looking for. Anyway, to answer your question, grandma had tuberculosis and the family moved to Tucson from Michigan for her health. Dad graduated from Tucson High.
The rest home could have had something to do with grandma's ailment, although my father said she died at home in her sleep next to grandpa. The other names are a mystery to me.
Bill At 08:46 AM 5/24/2013, you wrote:
>No doubt a precocious kid.
>
>Since I did this research, the 1940 Census has become available, but I
>have done very little of going back and adding 1940 info into my tree.
>But when someone makes contact, often I will go back and take another
>look. I found the entry below. How would you explain your
>grandparents out in Pima, Arizona, and who are all these other people
>in the McKee Rest Home? The boys were old enough to be on their own of
>course, but I couldn't find an obvious Raymond (or Talbot) to fit.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Drdraw Bill [mailto:drdraw@drdraw.com]
>Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:51 AM
>To: Leggett, David - FNS
>Subject: 20's
>
>David,
> I thought I'd tell you if you're doing the math. My father was
>in high school in the 20's because he got double promoted in grade
>school. He ended up graduating high school at 15.
>Bill
>
>Sent from my iPhone
1940 United States Federal Census
about Talbot T Smith
Name:
Talbot T Smith
Respondent:
Yes
Age:
51
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1889
Gender:
Male
Race:
White
Birthplace:
Michigan
Marital Status:
Married
Relation to Head of House:
Lodger
Home in 1940:
Tucson, Pima, Arizona
View Map
Street:
East Fourth Street
Inferred Residence in 1935:
Rural, Pima, Arizona
Residence in 1935:
Rural, Pima, Arizona
Sheet Number:
5A
institution:
McKee Rest Home Lines 1 To 5
Occupation:
Clerk
Attended School or College:
No
Highest Grade Completed:
College, 5th or subsequent year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:
40
Weeks Worked in 1939:
47
Income:
2080
Income Other Sources:
No
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household Members:
Name
Age
Columbus L McKee
55
Oma A McKee
48
Dorothy Catherine McKee
21
Virginia R Hazelwood
26
Earl Offie Ryan
45
Lynne Robinson
44
Mae Mc Kennon
31
Kermet S Brager
37
David Natlie Friedman
39
Edward G Stanley
22
John Trushan
45
Latta B Beyster
58
Rose T Rowell
59
Mildred Burnham
28
John R Stokes
58
Christine Skimer
45
George Edmonds
75
Talbot T Smith
51
Constance F Smith
51
Source Citation: Year: 1940; Census Place: Tucson, Pima, Arizona; Roll: T627_111; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 10-9.
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Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued
TALBOT SMITH 23 Jan 1888 Jun 1963 (California) (none specified) 526-10-3738 Arizona
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From: Jeff Lloyd ©2005 [mailto:MajorWilliamsTree@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:20 PM
To: Leggett, David
Subject: "The ties of our 'uncommon' kindred"
Dave,
In your tree...
1 William Haight LEGGETT b: 15 APR 1789 d: 23 DEC 1863
+ Margaret Peck WRIGHT b: 16 JAN 1794 d: 16 APR 1878 2 Augustus Wright LEGGETT b: 11 JUN 1816 d: 12 JAN 1885 + Elizabeth SEAMAN b: 9 MAY 1815 d: 9 FEB 1900 3 Mortimer Allen LEGGETT b: 18 OCT 1837 d: 18 NOV 1930 + Jane Mais WHITEHEAD b: 8 AUG 1839 d: 11 JUL 1874 <------ daughter of Almeron Whitehead, my 3rd G-grandfather
2 Samuel Mott LEGGETT b: 27 MAR 1820 d: 24 JUL 1883 + Julia COLES b: 1819 d: 4 NOV 1850 3 Julia Coles LEGGETT b: 18 SEP 1847 d: 1920 + Alvin Hedden WHITEHEAD b: 1841 d: 1898 <--- brother of Jennie Mais Whitehead (see below)
2 Thomas Bogart LEGGETT b: 27 MAY 1823 d: 1 APR 1895 + Sarah Maria HUGGINS b: 1 AUG 1826 d: 13 FEB 1902 3 William Thomas LEGGETT b: 1 NOV 1852 d: 9 OCT 1909 + Kate Adelia BAGNALL b: 3 AUG 1864 d: 6 SEP 1960 4 Milton William LEGGETT b: 19 NOV 1894 d: 10 JUL 1970 + Lucile McKee SHOWALTER b: 1 AUG 1893 d: 3 DEC 1974 5 John Milton LEGGETT b: 1931 + Ellin North RATCLIFFE b: 1931 6 David John LEGGETT b: 1961 < -------- YOU I tie in like this...
1. Almeron W. WHITEHEAD (b.1808 d.1883)
sp: Mary A. MAIS (b.1810 m.1833 d.1873)
|-2. Emma WHITEHEAD (b.1836 d.1911) | sp: Hon. Levi BACON Jr. (b.1819 m.1855 d.1887) | |-3. Agnes I. BACON (b.1859 d.1923) | | sp: George S. HODGES (b.1864 m.1888 d.1953) | | |-4. Mariva M. HODGES (b.1890 d.1981) | | | sp: Harlan S. SMITH (b.1890 m.1924 d.1979) | | | +-5. Muriel M. SMITH (b.1925) | | | sp: Donald A. LLOYD (b.1923 m.1947 d.1965) | | | |-6. Jeffrey LLOYD (b.1953) <----------- ME | | |-4. Marion R. HODGES (b.1894 d.1987) | | | sp: Lt. Gov. Ferris H. FITCH Esq. (b.1893 m.1921 d.1984) <--- brother of Constance (Fitch) Smith
| | | |-5. Constance FITCH (b.1926) <----cousin I'm meeting (maybe named after her aunt?)
|-2. Jane Mais WHITEHEAD (b.1839 d.1874) | sp: Mortimer Allen LEGGETT (b.1837 m.1858 d.1930) <---------- 2nd G-granduncle
|-2. Alvin Heddon WHITEHEAD (b.1843 d.1898) | sp: Julia Coles LEGGETT (b.1847 m.1873 d.1920) <---------- 2nd G-grandaunt
|-2. Isabelle WHITEHEAD (b.1844 d.1925) | sp: John A. BIGELOW | |-3. Bertha A. BIGELOW | | sp: Irwin H. NEFF | | |-4. Mortimer "Mort" NEFF (b.1903 d.1990) <--- popular host "Michigan Outdoors" on Detroit's channel 4 1951-1975
+-2. Almeron H. WHITEHEAD (b.1851 d.1926) <--- founder of "Birmingham Eccentric" newspaper which still exists
sp: Emma S. BODINE (b.1855 m.1877 d.1911) various branches have been 'pruned' for brevity, and I included a little local "flavor"...
"Ain't it funny how it goes..."
So there we have it... don't know about cousins-in-law: maybe we're 'honorary' cousins as it looks like we're related by genealogy research....
Yeah, Raymond D. is a "multiple choice" in the SSDI so I'm not sure about him either. But I'll try to find out, as he would be a cousin to Constance FITCH (b.1926)(above), and she might know...
Cheers,
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Leggett, David
To: Jeff Lloyd C2005
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: WorldConnect: Post-em posted - Constance Fitch Smith
Well, William Haight Leggett, 1789-1863, is my 3d great grandfather, and he is the most recent common ancestor for me and the folks we have been sharing info about. My line is the only one of his descendants not to have "daughtered out." There is another line of his descendants who bear the name through adoption.
Eliza (Seaman) Leggett would be an "aunt-in-law" of mine.
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From: Jeff Lloyd ©2005 [mailto:MajorWilliamsTree@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:01 PM
To: Leggett, David
Subject: Re: WorldConnect: Post-em posted - Constance Fitch Smith
Hi Dave!
I'm not sure about the Lettie-Raymond twin issue, but Feb 6th I'm visiting with a Fitch cousin and so will ask her then (Her maiden name was also Constance Fitch - strange coincidences, huh?)
How do you connect up in the Leggett tree?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Leggett, David
To: Jeff Lloyd C2005
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: WorldConnect: Post-em posted - Constance Fitch Smith
Jeff, the credit is yours. Yes I see that we talked before about Archie Utter; glad to see in checking that entry that I gave you credit for him too!
I see in the photo of the stone a Lettie Smith, 1914-1916. Obviously a child of Constance's. Wonder if she was a twin to Raymond D., who I have being born about 1914. I never did find out what happened to Raymond D. Talbot Jr. I was able to find, the more unusual first name helped.
So I think we must be "cousins-in-law"?
From: Jeff Lloyd ©2005 [mailto:MajorWilliamsTree@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:09 AM
To: Leggett, David
Subject: Re: WorldConnect: Post-em posted - Constance Fitch Smith
Photo E-mail Play slideshow | Download images Hi David!
I believe we've conversed before... (about Archie Crouston Utter?)
Constance Fitch was a sister of a (now deceased) grand-uncle of mine, Ferris H. Fitch (who was Lt. Gov of MI at one time; he was also a lawyer)(may have been a judge at one time as well)
Here is a photo of the "Fitch - Humphrey" marker at Oak Hill Cemetery in Pontiac, MI, which will show you that Talbot "J" is actually Talbot "T" (Truxton) Smith (Jr.)... (as well as other verifications and connections)( the Talbot Smith on the marker is obviously the father)
Fitch and Humphrey monument at Oak Hill cemetery, Pontiac, MI (west face)(day) ©2004-2006 Jeff Lloyd
As an aside on the Leggett branch with I believe is your primary concern, I went to Eliza (Seaman) Leggett elementary school here in Waterford, MI when a child - Eliza was the mother of a 2nd G-Granduncle of mine, Mortimer Allen Leggett. The Leggett markers are also either at Oak Hill for some of them, or out in Waterford at Sashabaw Cemetery (Drayton Plains/Clarkston area) for the others.
I have ALL these connections but have not published them online or elsewhere as yet (a big thank you to you for your online info which helped my info fill out) but prefer to 'leak' out little bits now and then (to help point folks in the right direction) and so as not to jeopardize any effort I may have in the future towards a possible locally-oriented book about pioneers and settlers in the area.
Hope you like this, and Enjoy!
Jeff
PS: If you use this information on you website, would you be kind enough to give me/my research credit? (as it takes a long time to discover and verify these connections). Thanks for your consideration!
----- Original Message -----
From: Leggett, David
To: MajorWilliamsTree@msn.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: WorldConnect: Post-em posted
Jeff, thanks for this. It got me going again, and I found the family in
the 1930 Census in Tucson, Arizona, (Constance shows middle initial F.)
got the name of the second son corrected (Talbot J. Jr.) and found both
father and son in the SSDI. (Both showed issue of SSN in Arizona, but
father's last residence in CA, Jr. in Arizona.
Are you related to this family?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: David.Leggett@fns.usda.gov [mailto:David.Leggett@fns.usda.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:28 PM
To: Leggett, David
Subject: WorldConnect: Post-em posted
Database: djleggett
Individual: I5435
Link:
http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=djl
eggett&id=I5435
Name: Jeff
Email: MajorWilliamsTree@msn.com
URL:
URL title:
Note:
Constance FITCH...
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California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: SMITH, CONSTANCE FITCH
Social Security #: 0
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1889
Birthplace: MICHIGAN
Death Date: 18 Sep 1945
Death Place: SAN DIEGO
Mother's Maiden Name: HUMPHREY
Father's Surname: FITCH
California Death Index, 1940-1997. Sacramento, CA: State of California
Department of Health Services, Center for Health Statistics, 19--.
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Hope this helps!
Jeff
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