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Note: Of Cahir, Tipperary 1846/??/?? Blacksmith of Abbey Street, Cahir, Tipperary - Slater's Trade Directory (1846)
Nowadays, Costigan's Funeral Home, 8 Lower Abbey Street, Cahir, E21 T970
Possible candidates:
Michael Murphy, born Oct 1812 to William Murphy and Margaret O'Donnell (m.1808)
where William (b.1777) was the son of William Murphy (17??-) = Bridget O'Donnell
where William was the son of James Murphy (1706-71) = Mary (1704-51)
https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland/tipperary/caher/message-board/murphy
Hello Simon in New York,
I have just read your post of 3rd Feb. It occurs to me that my Cahir Murphy family may be related to your's. I think that because of the names of John and William reoccur in your family, even after emigrating to America.
The following is some of what I have gleaned from the marriage and baptism records:
James Murphy (1706-1771) and his wife Mary (1704-1751) are buried in the graveyard of the old ruined church (St Marys) in Cahir. I have seen their grave stones after Joe Walsh, local historian, pointed them out to me.
I think it very possible their children are :
Ellener (abt 1735-1757) m. John Brenoch
James (abt 1740-abt 1814) m. Elizabeth Power
John m. abt 1780 Joanna Riorden
Mary
William m. Bridget O'Donnell
Alice (possible) There is less evidence but Alice is a possible sister.
Anne (possible) There is less evidence but Anne is a possible sister.
The brothers William and John (above listed) have children and use the names of John, James and William for male children. That's where it gets difficult. However John Murphy (listed above) and Joanna Riorden have twin boys in December 1780 and they name them Edmund and John. In July 1783 a John Murphy (possibly the same John Murphy) has a child to Ellen Murphy (possibly a cousin) and that child is named John. Joanna Riorden may have died as she has no more children to John Murphy.
William Murphy (listed above) has two sons to Bridget O'Donnell. They are named William (b 1777) and James (b1779). Their first son, William Murphy marries a Margaret O'Donnell in 1808 and they have 5 children: Michael (b Oct 1812), Ellen (b Jan 1816), John (Mar 1819), William (July 1820), and anoher John (b June 1823). Perhaps the first John died.
Those birth dates don't seem to fit with your John Murphy who married Catherine O'Brien about 1800. Nevertheless the use of names John, William and James are possibly coming from the same Murphy line.
Sorry if I have just confused you by giving you this information. There are too many John Murphys in Cahir.
My family line comes through from James Murphy who married Elizabeth Power. They had the lease from 1781 for the hotel called the New Inn and later called the Glengall Arms. Their granddaughters emigrated to New South Wales.
If you manage to sort out more about your John Murphy I would love to hear about it.
Regards...Lyn
Lyn of the Cahir Murphies
Tuesday 7th February 2017, 08:15AM
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