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Note: f William Martin. I favor the marriage to a Jane cited below. Perhaps one day someone can make sense out of my copious notes below regarding the options for a marriage, if there was any at all.
The only source for William as a child in the family of Benjamin and Rhoda Martin is the 1850 census, in which he appears as a child between Mary and Andrew.
"United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M85Q-RHN : accessed 6 June 2015), R Ro*Y Martin, Vermilion county, part of, Vermilion, Illinois, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
It is assumed that William was the biological son of Benjamin and Rhoda but, of course, the 1850 census does not list relationships.
The curious thing about this document is the birth state listed for William. While the children younger and older than William are all born in Illinois
(and it is assumed Vermillion County based on Benjamin's residence in the county on the 1840 census and Rhoda's listing on the 1860 Vermillion County census) William's birth is listed as Missouri! I have checked the original and the listing looks like Mo. What Rhoda would have been doing in Missouri between her other 1830's Illinois births (if the 1850 census is to be believed) is a mystery and an eyebrow raiser. If Vermillion County bordered Missouri that would be one thing, but Vermillion County is on the extreme opposite eastern end of Illinois on the border with Indiana.
On generating a search on Family Search for William Martins on the 1870 Illinois census born between 1833 and 1838 there are many, but two of interest. The first William is listed as born in Illinois in 1837-38 living in Danville, Vermilion County (see notes at end) and the second more interesting candidate is a William living in Piatt County, Illinois, married to a Jane and born in Indiana in 1834 - the same year as our William.
This second William's data from the 1870 census follows:
Name William Martin
Event Type Census
Event Year 1870
Event Place Illinois, United States
Gender Male
Age 35
Race White
Race (Original) W
Birth Year (Estimated) 1834-1835
Birthplace Indiana
William Martin M 35 Indiana
Jane Martin F 26 Indiana
Ettie Martin F 3 Illinois
Olive Martin M 2 Illinois
"United States Census, 1870," database with images, <i>FamilySearch</i>(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6H5-GSD : accessed 13 April 2016), William Martin, Illinois, United States; citing p. 3, family 20, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 545,767.
There are two interesting points about this census. First the birthplace is in Indiana which borders Vermilion County. William could have been born in Indiana and not Missouri, that earlier 1850 census entry being a census taker error, if the hard to read original in 1850 is even meant to read 'Missouri.' But the more interesting point about the 1870 census is that his son is, based on consulting the original, named Olive or Oliver (In the best tradition of census accuracy, one wonders if the gender was entered incorrectly). William's youngest sister had the uncommon name Olive E. The year of this William's birth and name of his son places this William in a strong position to be the son of Benjamin and Rhoda.
Unfortunately he (and perhaps Olive/Oliver) died by the 1880 census as Jane Martin of the same birth state is living in Coles County, Illinois with daughter Lizzie (this could be Ettie from the 1870 census), widowed and without son Olive/Oliver. This implies a pre 1880 death for William. The death records of the counties in that era did not list parents of the deceased. Jane is listed as 26 on the 1870 census and 47 on the 1880. A ten year difference in age! If this is the same lady, the age in 1870 is ten years too young by (census taker error?) mistake. Ettie's and Lizzie's age are also off three years between the 1870 and 1880 census. We know these records are not to be counted on for ultra accuracy, but that is a lot of variation. As no other Jane Martin appears on the 1870 census, this 1880 connection should be retained and looked at more carefully for future research. I believe this Jane may be the widow of our William who died before 1880.
The first of the William Martins mentioned above on the 1870 census living in Danville and buried in the Danville National cemetery in Vermillion County in 1908 is not our William Martin. While the age is only off by three years and the name and county are right, upon exploring this William's entry in U.S. National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, 1866-1938 (being admitted twice in both Leavenworth County, Kansas and Vermillion, Illinois) we find this William entered in both documents as a native of Alabama!! These documents give lie to the entries on the 1870, 1880, and 1900 Vermilion County census' which list him as being born in Illinois!! A glaring discrepancy! Yet another census error? That this William, native of Alabama according to the above Disabled Volunteer Soldiers documents, is the same William as residing on the 1870, 1880, and 1900 Vermilion census and buried in 1908 in the Danville cemetery is attested by the death date of 1 Aug 1908 entered on the Disabled Volunteer Soldiers form and his headstone inthe Danville cemetery.
The following search was made in 2015 of online sources.
Name as you searched it MARTIN, William
Date of Search 6/18/2015
General Google NOTHING
Roots Web World Connect NOTHING
Ancestry Public Member Family Trees NOTHING
Ancestry Marriage Search NOTHING
Ancestry Death Search NOTHING
Ancestry Hints NOTHING
Ancestry census search too many Williams on 1880
Ancestry military search NOTHING
FS marriage search see notes below
FS death search on Find a Grave there is Aug. 2, 1908 in Danville, Vermilion, but no birth
FS census search NOTHING
FS parent name search NOTHING
Find a grave Search see above
Fulton HistorySearch NA
Message board questions See notes below
The following are transcriptions of census data and chat room conversations with other researchers through the message boards on Ancestry.com.
"William was on the 1850 census but out of the house through death or marriage by 1860.
1850 Vermilion, IL
Rhoda Martin 1797 VA
Alexander Martin 1815 Ohio - Sarah George 24 Apr 1858
Benjamin Martin 1828 IL
Mary Martin 1831 IL
William Martin 1834 MO
Andrew Martin 1837 IL
Olive Martin 1840 IL
Zalida Martin 1844 IL
1860 Georgetown township, Vermilion Co
Rhoda Martin 1797 VA
Andrew Martin 1837 IL
Olive Martin 1845 IL
Zalida Martin 1841 IL
http://www.ilsos.gov/isavital/marriagesrch.jsp"
Here is information I received from a researcher in 2015 after making a post on the message board of Rootsweb:
"These are the Williams that married in Vermillion County before 1860.
William Martin - Rosanna Moudy 11 Mar 1858
William G Martin - Samantha A Hutsonfiller 20 Jul 1856
William H Martin - Lucinda Bowen 09 Aug 1857
Following the William married to Samantha it should be remembered that according to the 1850 census William was born in Missouri, and the only child so listed:
1870 Crittenden, Champaign, IL
William D Martin 1835 IL
Samantha Martin 1839 IN
Wm A Martin 1857
Isaac Newton Martin 1859
Sarah E Martin 1864
Mary C Martin 1867
1880 Catlin, Vermilion, IL
W D Martin 1835 born IL parents Ohio
Samanatha A Martin 1839 Indiana
Isaac Newton Martin Nov 1859 Danville IL married Samantha E Ward Oct 1880 who was from Putman Co IN then subsequent wife or wives according to Vermilion census. Eunice Faye Martin Petit 1893-1935 Georgetown.
Mary C Martin 1867 IL
Eddie Martin 1871 IL
1900 Georgetown, Vermilion, IL
William D Martin Apr 1835 IL parents IL <b>remarried abt 1888
</b>Clara Martin Mar 1846 IN mother of 5 living children"
Re: help with Brick Wall in finding spouses for two children of Benjamin and Rhoda Martin ca. 1850-1865
neilr127 (Viewposts)
Posted:3 Jan 2015 3:13AM GMT
Classification:Query
Surnames:
Thank you for this research.
As per your transcriptions of the 1870 and 1880 census William lists his parents as born in Ohio on the 1880 census and Illinois on the 1900 census. Perhaps clerical error, but his parents were born in Virginia, in those days Virginia was such a social difference (the South) that that would have not been missed. So the William who married Samantha is not the one I am guessing.
Neil
Following the William who married Rosanna, there is a William Martin and a Rose Anne on the 1880 Vermillion, Indiana census, but he was born in 1838 in Illinois. Not a serious transcription error for census records but he cannot be found on the 1860 or 1870 census, and I was unable to follow him for verification of parents birthplaces on the 1900 census. Such a common name…
"UnitedStates Census, 1880," database with images, <i>FamilySearch</i>(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHSL-SLQ: accessed 21 March 2016), William Martin, Highland, Vermillion, Indiana,United States; citing enumeration district ED 185, sheet 8C, NARA microfilmpublication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration,n.d.), roll 0318; FHL microfilm 1,254,318.
I was unable to follow any William Martin and Lucinda that fit with this couple.
Note: As of 2016 nothing conclusive is known of the marital or death history o
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