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Note: N117 After abandoning his second family in 1876 John Carmichael Rose lived in S. Dakota raising cattle for a while, then in 1897/98 moved to New Mexico where he raised sheep, living in a tent. - two letters to his daughter Anna.
Rebecca W Johnson divorced him in 1882.
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I'm looking for information or possible connections to The John Rose family who lived in Eau Claire from the late 1850s until the turn of the century.
John Rose owned a lumber mill on the Little Chippewa River. His partner was a Mr. Pound. Between 1870 and 1880, the mill burned and also John Rose died. (Note: John Rose did not die at this time) I would love to have any details I could regarding both events. Also, I do not know where John is buried.
John was b abt 1832 in New York and came to Wisconsin about 1858. His first wife, Lovena died 20 Mar 1865 leaving him with two small children:
Nellie Rose b abt 1859 in Eau Claire. (Her name was actually Ellen or possibly Elenore).
Willard Rose b abt 1862 d between 1870 and 1880. (Note: Willard did not die in that time period)
On 11 Oct 1865, John married a Rebecca Johnson. (Daughter of William Johnson b in Virginia and Harriet Morrison b in Pennsylvania) Together they had 3 more children:
Christiana Rose b abt 1867 (Called Anna by her family)
Adelia Rose b abt 1869 (Called Della by her family) I believe she married a William McCray and later moved to Minneapolis.
Kate Rose b abt 1871.
In the 1880 US Census, I find widowed Rebecca with the four girls still living in Eau Claire. Nellie's occupation is "Printer".
Christiana is my g-grandmother, she married Edgar A. Boardman in 1886.
Any information about this family or the Sawmill or related Eau Claire events that might have effected them, would be deeply appreciated.
Thank you
Christa Powell
meagwen@@gmail.com
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I'm looking for information or possible connections to The John Rose family who lived in Eau Claire from the late 1850s until the turn of the century.
John C. Rose and L. W. Pound built a lumber mill on the east side of the river, in 1866. It was destroyed by fire in 1878 and never rebuilt.
John was b abt 1832 in New York and came to Wisconsin about 1858. In the 1860 Census, he is a butcher in Eau Claire. His first wife, Lovena died 20 Mar 1865 leaving him with two small children:
Nellie Rose b abt 1859 in Eau Claire. (Her name was actually Ellen or possibly Elenore).
Willard Rose b abt 1862 d between 1870 and 1880.
On 11 Oct 1865, John married a Rebecca Johnson. (Daughter of William Johnson b in Virginia and Harriet Morrison b in Pennsylvania) Together they had 3 more children:
Christiana Rose b abt 1867 (Called Anna by her family)
Adelia Rose b abt 1869 (Called Della by her family) I believe she married a William McCray and later moved to Minneapolis.
Kate Rose b abt 1871.
In the 1880 US Census, I find widowed Rebecca with the four girls still living in Eau Claire. Nellie's occupation is "Printer".
Christiana is my g-grandmother, she married Edgar A. Boardman in 1886.
I am interested in any information about this family or the Sawmill or related Eau Claire events that might have effected them. I live in Washington State and so your help is deeply appreciated.
Thank you
Christa Powell
meagwen@@gmail.com
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1855 - NY State census - Charles Rose (45), Christiana (45), John C (23), Charles W (21), Mary E (19), Willard (19), Helen (14), Anna (12), Jane M (10), Simon S (6) are living in Johnstown, Fulton, NY.
1859 - The Eau Claire Free Press, Volume I, Thursday Morning September 15, 1859
DISSOLUTION
The co-partnership heretofore existing between Vaux & Rose is this day dissolved by mutual consent. The old Business will be conducted at the same place by George Caux and the accounts of the former concern will be collected by John C Rose.
GEORGE VAUX
JOHN C ROSE
Aug, 24th, 1859
47-3w*
1860 Census - John C (28), Levina (23) and Ellen L (6/12) are living in Eau Claire, WI. John’s occupation is “Butcher”
1866 - MILL SITES REMEMBERED - CHIPPEWAW RIVER SAW MILLS, EAU CLAIR, WI
“In 1866, L.W. Pond and John C. Rose built a mill at No. 19 on the east bank of the Chippewa almost opposite the Mayhew mill, but, like the
Mayhew mill, it was destroyed by fire, in 1870.”
“L. W. Pound and John C. Rose built one of the few mills on the east side of the river, nearly across from the Mayhew Mill in 1866. Both mills suffered the same fate as they were destroyed by fire and neither was built. The Mayhew mill burned in 1872 and the Pound-Rose mill in 1878.”
1870 Census - John C (36) , R. W (23), Nellie (10), Willard (8), Anna (3), Adelle (1), are in Eau Claire, WI. John is a Lumberman. H. E. Johnson (61) “helps in the house”. They were running a boarding house and the help and boarders are listed as well. The boarders, fourteen of them, mainly from Norway, were employed at a saw mill, perhaps that of John C Rose. John’s real estate is estimated to be worth $5000, and his personal estate $10,000.
1875 - Wisconsin State Census - John C Rose, Eau Claire City, Eau Claire, Wi, 2 white males, 5 white females.
1876 - “He left in March 1876, went west and has never since returned - he had no cause for leaving her - he just left her and went away and stayed away. He has contributed nothing to the support of his wife or any of the children since he went away.”
(from the testimony of Harriet Johnson, John’s mother-in-law, in the divorce papers filed with the Eau Claire County (WI) Circuit Court)
1878 - There were dozens of sawmills in the Chippewa and Eau Claire area from the 1850s through 1900. Some lasted only a few years as they were burned or flooded out. After the 1870s smaller mills went out of business and larger ones dominated the scene.
L. W. Pound and John C. Rose built one of the few mills on the east side of the river, nearly across from the Mayhew Mill in 1866. Both mills suffered the same fate as they were destroyed by fire and neither was built. The Mayhew mill burned in 1872 and the Pound-Rose mill in 1878.
1880 Census - John C. Rose (48) is living in Bear Butte Creek and Spring Creek Valley, Lawrence, Dakota Territory. He is a farmer. No others are listed in his home.
“From the National Archives in Washington DC, I got the file on the homestead claim by John C. Rose in Dakota Terr. This reveals that he filed for 160 acres in 1880 but the next year a guy named William Meyers brought suit which eventually reduced John’s homestead to 40 acres. The worst of this was that he had built his house and barn on the 120 acres he lost. Also in these papers it is shown that his wife divorced him in 1881 (That was certainly a bad year for him, although it seems his bad luck was brought on by his own doing)
-from a letter written by John McCray Merriell to Nancy Eberle Dec 21, 1984 -
1891 -
Suspended Land Entries - South Dakota - 1891
The information in this file was extracted from "The Executive Documents of
the House of Representatives for the First Sessiom of the Fifty-Second
Congress, 1891-'92" printed by the Government Printing Office in 1892.
This particular report is titled "Abstract of Suspended Land Entries" and
is Executive Document No. 100.
This document contains the names of over 2700 persons in 25 states and the
Dakota Territory whose land entries were suspended and adjudicated by the
Commissioner of the General Land Office during the fiscal year ending 30
June 1891.
The names were listed in the report (probably) in chronological order,
rather than in alphabetical or geographic order.
The location of the land probably is not in the same county as the land
office; some states only had one or two land offices for the entire state.
In some cases, the nearest land office was in a neighboring state and the
land transaction was entered there.
Be sure to check surrounding states, as the nearest land office may have been
across the state border.
This file was created by Joy Fisher, sdgenweb@@yahoo.com
Copyright Joy Fisher, 1998 This file may be freely copied by individuals
or non-profit organizations for their private use.
Any other use, including publication, storage in a retrieval system, or
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written approval of the file's author.
No.898
Rapid City SD
Rose John C.
Section 33
T 6N
R 6E
Page 31
1897 - Left SD for NM
1900 Census - John C Rose (68) is living in Torreon, Valencia, New Mexico. He reported himself as single and a sheepman. (Precincts 14-15, 18 Tajique, Manzano, Torreon, Valencia, New Mexico Territory) According to the census record John owned his home free of a mortgage, and it was not a farm.
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“On the day before I last wrote to you, David mailed a post card from Santa Fe saying he had found the death record of John C. Rose - 23 Feb 1904 near Alburquerque. He had been attended by a doctor (who signed the death certificate) since Jan 20, so he was in the throes of a terminal illness when he wrote the note to his brother, which is the last thing we have of him. Dave did some more sleuthing around the area in New Mexico and came up with evidence that John had entered into a sort of lease/purchase agreement for some land near Alburquerque not too long before he died. This suggests that he had little or no money at the time, and likely the leasee took whatever there was left. Dave could not find any record of a burial, so I suspect he lies in a pauper’s grave with no stone. It is doubtful there is a record of either. So this sort of “closes the book” on John C. Rose.”
-from a letter written by John McCray Merriell to Nancy Eberle Sept 3, 1984 -
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Online death index for New Mexico has the following entry:
Rose, John C, 02/23/1904 BERNALILLO County
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Find-a-Grave memorial
John Rose
BIRTH
unknown
DEATH
23 Feb 1904
BURIAL
Fairview Memorial Park
Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, New Mexico, USA
PLOT
(Unmarked) Section 16C, Row: T- West, Grave: 11
MEMORIAL ID
200222880 · View Source
Age: Either 32 or 72 (Records are difficult to read)
Widower
Occupation: Farmer
Cause of death: Pneumonia
(Mortuary: J. Edwards)
No headstone
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1906
"The late John C. Rose dwelling, on the west side of River street, was built in 1858. “
(from PIONEER RESIDENCE BUILDING IN EAU CLAIRE IN 1858; Its incidents and outcome, by Alexander Meggett; Eau Claire Sunday Leader; 18 March 1906)
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Perhaps the following helps to explain what caused John C Rose to abandon his family. It seems that the lumber industry fell on very hard times in the first half of the 1870’s.
HALF MOON LAKE
SAW MILL LOCATIONS AND HISTORY
Eau Claire was once known as "Sawdust City" because it hosted numerous sawmills all along the Chippewa River, the Eau Claire River and Half Moon Lake. Starting in the 1830's Eau Claire had the physical geography to set the stage for massive production in the Lumber Industry. However, the beginning stages and it's people in Eau Claire were not "mature" enough to begin settling down and establishing a name for themselves. Most of the men in the area were traders, hunters or nomads moving up and down the Chippewa at their own will. A few mills began in the area, but none of consequence and none on Half Moon Lake.
The Beginning of Sawdust City: 1856-1867
This era marked the beginning of Eau Claire's and especially Half Moon Lake's sawmill history. The effects from this are still seen today with a bark bar that runs through the eastern arm of Half Moon Lake from where logs were stripped of their bark in the holding pond. This era brought in loggers from the east with hopes of making a successful business in Eau Claire.
Eau Claire had a very fast start, with 9 mills located on or adjacent to Half Moon Lake. Three of these mills would not last long at all, but some such as the Daniel Shaw Lumber Company would last into the 20th century. At this time mills in Eau Claire were extremely dependant on the Chippewa for Survival. The Chippewa River brought logs down the river, gave power to the mills and allowed the logs to be taken to the customer. The map below shows the location of mills along or near Half Moon Lake.
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Depression Hits: 1868-1874
This marked the beginning of hard times for Eau Claire, and many Wisconsin mills. Depression, drought had hit the states in the Great Plains area and it was affecting all of Wisconsin. Lumber prices were driven into the ground ($12.00 per 1000 feet) and many mills couldn't afford to keep up. Numerous mills closed down and many saw mill workers couldn't find work. Low River levels all along the Chippewa simply hardened the times. The photo below shows the decline of the number of sawmills in Eau Claire and especially on Half Moon Lake in 1874.
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Wisconsin Land Records
Last name First name Init Date county acres
ROSE JOHN C 1858 Eau Claire 0.0000
ROSE JOHN C 1858 Eau Claire 0.0000
ROSE JOHN C 1858 Eau Claire 0.0000
ROSE JOHN C 1858 Eau Claire 160.0000
ROSE JOHN C 1865 Rusk 0.0000
ROSE JOHN C 1865 Rusk 27.2000
ROSE JOHN C 1865 Rusk 77.8000
ROSE JOHN C 1868 Clark 40.0000
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Civil War: John Carmichael Rose was of prime age to serve in the Civil War. There is no record of his serving or registering for the draft. Most of Wisconsin’s counties were able to provide enough volunteers to not have to resort to the draft. It seems likely that Eau Claire county, being a lumber center, had plenty of young men who would have fulfilled the county’s quota by volunteers.
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